Don't tell me for ONE SECOND THAT THERE IS NOT A CURE!
Seriously, think about it! We have so many cures and medications and vaccinations for diseases far worse than herpes, yet, there is not cure for herpes. Give me a fucking break! The Pharmaceutical companies that manufacture drugs like VALTREX and other suppressive therapy medications do NOT want there to be a cure. Shit, they are making a MINT off our blistering butts, do you honestly think they want to CURE herpes. It is an annoying disease...annoying enough and painful enough for people to get desperate enough to want to buy meds for it. The meds ain't cheap! (especially for those without insurance). BUT it is not a killer disease. So...they can pay off researchers and labortories to hold off and WAIT before coming up with a cure or vaccine for this, because really, why SHOULD THEY CURE IT. Until someone of great importance gets this shit, then maybe a cure will miraculously appear.
I find it ironic they now have a vaccine for Chicken pox (which is in the same damn family, just a different strain of the virus.) but none for herpes. It makes me so angry. Something that can be cured, so simple, and yet, MONEY is the drug that talks in america. It will stand in the way of you and I (all of us) from being rid of this stupid, annoying, (and sometimes very painful, physically and emotionally) virus.
I hope they find a cure before my children are older and sexually active. Or before some well meaning relative kisses them and then passes it on to them. Life sure would be a tad easier if we didn't have THIS to deal with.
People say, oh do not stress yourself out, it makes it worse...well, life is sometimes stressful. Women have periods and pms.....these things play a huge part in our outbreaks. You can try try try to alleviate stress and what not, but it doesn't always work. Then you have an outbreak and HELLO...you are stressed out from that.
So yes, I wish that someone would just say, hey you know what, a cure is at hand.....here are a few tests and voila! Get us all vaccinated against it, then we can worry about REALLY important issues. Not this crap.
And don't even get me started about HIV/AIDS. Same goes with this...there IS a cure out there... I am not big on conspiracy theories (I am not whimsical enough of a person to believe in conspiracies) however, AIDS was an introduced virus. Suddenly all the gay men and IV drug users in Greenwich Village NYC were coming up with this strange flu. Basically, all the "undesirables" in society were becoming ill. As soon as this shit hit middle america, THEN people freaked out about it, but before...it was the "gay disease". There are theories about one particular doctor in the Village who clientele were predominately gay men, and he would give them various treatments and "shots". Next thing you know, these men were all sick. Said doctor suddenly disappears. hmmmm....a planted "thyphoid mary" if you ask me. (no, I don't believe tht people were fucking apes/monkeys...even though that is the origination of this virus....I believe it was introduced into society.)
Herpes has been around for thousands of years. But in the past 30 it has seen a HUGE rise in infected people. I don't think it is due to any 'conspiracy theory" like I do HIV. But I DO believe firmly that the drug makers in the world have the knowledge and power to cure it. And they choose not too. Not until they make MORE money off us.
I myself, do NOT use suppressive therapy of any kind. I found that when I DID use valtrex, it really didn't help much. Maybe lessened the length of time that the outbreak occured and that was it. Plus, our bodies eventually become immune to the anti-viral (just like anti-biotics) then they stop working. Then you are in REALLY big trouble (ie. pain etc.) I occassionally take them if I have a horrific outbreak, but once it is over, I am off of them. I would rather let my body build up strength against the virus on its own. But that is just me.
If my children had this crap, I would probably put them on suppressive therapy until they were old enough to understand how to take care of themselves and clean properly. When they are little, I fear it would be too easy for them to spread it to other areas, like their eyes. I am currently excited to say they do NOT have this shit, not even "cold sores" although I am constantly worried they will somehow catch it from me (despite my over zealousness to ensure they do NOT catch it! hahaha)
Well, that is my rant. I wonder if there are others who feel I do: that there IS a cure for this shit. ? :?:
I sure hope there is a cure. This has been out for years, come on.
I agree. The pharmaceutical companies are not in business to cure diseases, they are in business to cure symptoms of diseases. Why pay once when you can pay for life...and the next generation too.
YES I totaly agree with you ouch.Just like this ......I have anxiety disorder well when I went to the doctor about it of course I get scripts for meds.I have been to alot of doctors about anxiety and every time I was prescribed meds for the symptoms never have I been sent to therapy in 13 years.That is exactly what is done they dish out meds for the symptoms never curing the real problem.Then you have people dependant on the meds and they keep raking in the bucks.
I am with you ouch now that I found out I have herpes I would rather not take meds just try and be healthy take vitamins etc.If I ever have a bad outbreak maybe take the pills till thats over.
This is a real shame so what herpes wont kill us it still can be very damaging for people.
the pharmaceutical industry in America is second only to the defense spending on the military. It is scary. Without getting political - the Bush administration is particularly scary. Bush has pushed through legislation that is seeing every school kid in America having a mini test to see if they have mental health issues. The medicalisation of perfectly normal reactions such as anxiety and depression is disgusting. They are desperate for us to consume more anxiolitics and anti-depressants. It used to be that we were pushed to be rich, then thin now it is to be happy. My point is that with the average cancer patient being worth upwards of 50,000 usd what chance do we have of cures being found. If a manufacturer invented a car that never broke down or needed servicing or any further consumables do you think we would see that car ?? No way.
Herpes, well i don't see anything on the horizon anytime soon. Sorry to be a merchant of doom but its not sexy enough for campaigners in a mainstream sense and the pharmaceutical giants are making too much money from it. Benjamin Franklin once said that the biggest enemy of democracy is capitalism. The Bush and Blair administrations illustrates this perfectly to me
It is scary....but believe you me...it is not just the Bush administration who has done this underhanded sort of thing (and I am NO supporter of his, believe me!) Look at the Clinton admin, and you will see a whole PLETHORA of coverups, paybacks, underhanded dealings, etc. Can we all say CHINAGATE?!?! And he and his admin were also keen on accepting dollars from various research/pharmaceutical and power companies. He and his whore bag joke of a wife hide under a guise of socialism...we should ALL be equal and all that bullshit, but THEY live pretty damn high on the hog.
So it is widespread. Republicans, democrats, capitalist, socialist (hell, this is why COMMUNISM didn't work....because it SOUNDS nice on paper, but the reality is....it is an utter failure) Everyone from every demographic is affected by the almighty dollar. It is going to take someone with REAL drive and REAL balls to come out into the open and say "hey, ya know what!!?!? I gotta a cure for HIV! I gotta cure for HSV!!! I gotta cure for leukemia!' etc, ad nauseum.
Unfortunately, we are a nation of ball-less wonders. Until someone like BUSH or his sleezy daughters get HSV, there will be NO cure in sight.
Side note: When my son was in the 1st grade he had a teacher who insisted he had ADD/ADHD. She wanted me to get him on ritalin. Who in the FUCK was she to make a diagnosis such as that. I kept trying to tell her, you know what? he is a straight A student, he does well in school. He is acting up because I am going through a divorce with his dad right now.
Everytime I said this, the woman didn't want to hear it!!! I finally said HELL NO, I don't care if he DOES have ADD....HE IS NOT GETTING SPEED TO MAKE YOUR LIFE EASIER! TEACH LADY!!!!
(he doesn't have add/adhd...I was right.....his doctor said she needed to be turned into the dean of his school. She was being a lazy ass teacher.)
But it is this mindset that is ruling this country! Over medicate everyone....MAKE them take medicine, even if they don't need it. We should all rename ourselves Elvis, eh? didn't we learn anything from that poor bastard?!!? Doctors, teachers...they ARE falliable. And they tend to over prescribe, wrongly diagnose people.
It would take at least a few hours to tell you all the reasons that support the very "reason" there is no cure.
First being that herpes is a VIRUS!
I'm just going to hold on to the hopeful possibility of a vaccine rather then a cure. It's more believable and likely to happen in our lifetimes.
This is hysteria! Sorry guys I hate to bust your bubbles but You haven't stumbled on some miracle treatment.. I'm going to proceed directly to Rant... NOW HEAR THIS>>> NOTHING....NOTHING... NO TOPICAL PRODUCT mentioned in this entire thread Could EVER PREVENT OUTBREAKS by rubbing them into HEALTHY, INTACT skin...Purell hand sanitizer?? dude you're having an attack of magical thinking.. do these topicals Treat outbreaks?... SURE..You betcha... because alcohol based hand sanitizers like Purell, GermX, those essential oils, Choraphor (active ingredient is sulfur which is a powerful antiflammatory), zinc preparations.. are actually souped up skin soothing antiseptics... some are just loaded with worthless CRAP that does zippy for herpes! Antiseptics INACTIVATE THE VIRUS ON CONTACT and help dry up the lesions. Whoopiedo...I've had genital herpes for 22 years... I used Listerine on my coochie lesions... burned like hell for about 5 seconds..got rid of the pox in like 3 days. I experienced fewer and fewer outbreaks as the years went by...Thanks to a good immune system. Your experiences with these new fangled antiseptics aren't anything novel. If you are looking for a safe PREVENTIVE topical that has some good solid scientific evidence behind it...not just anectodal evidence... Lysine applications( Lysine is an amino acid that is an old-school treatment for herpes) may be beneficial for aborting the outbreak when applied on the skin dermatomes. It may also be taken orally. This is because lysine substitutes for L-arginine, an amino acid necessary for a step in herpes virus DNA replication. The virus dosen't know the difference between the two. Heard of Placebo Effect?... Much of what we experience with the herps is psychological...some people claim they are outbreak free from being hypnotized...Of course they're downloading information from the mothership too. Now the following is a subject that really pisses me off
Watch out for the claims made by companies of so-called "Natural Herpes Cures"... Cure? "AMAZING HERPES CURE" kills herpes virus!!! Where? in a laboratory test tube? ...BIG F***KING DEAL... I can do that with soap and water! How d' ya kill a virus...say in a PERSON... HMMM? Now THAT would be impressive... viruses per se aren't living entities.. Herpes virus is DNA... its function is to make copies of itself.. to do so it must invade a host's (your) living cells.. so..to kill a virus... you must kill the host's cell. Fine... if we're talking about killing an infected SKIN CELL.. skin cells regenerate but once herpes invades the skin cells it's ALREADY considered an active clinical OUTBREAK or subclinical SHEDDING. See, these laboratories get away with claims that applying their TOPICAL product to your lesions will HELP PREVENT NEW OUTBREAKS..here's the dirty little secret..ANYTHING applied to active lesions that kills herpes on contact.. a 50 cent bottle of alcohol..or $98 bottle of "amazing herpes cure" will HELP PREVENT NEW OUTBREAKS because IN THEORY less of the virus retreats to the nerve tissue in the spinal ganglion where the sneaky little bastards hibernate. Now that begs the question again...Here's the tricky part...How d'ya kill a LATENT virus... living in your spinal nerve tissue cells... cells that DO NOT regenerate.... without destroying the nerve cells themselves...???? In order to cure herpes..every last dna particle would have to be eradicated along with its every last host nerve cell... where the sneaky little bastards hunker down.... this would be detrimental to the host (you)... because you would lose sensory nerve function..CAPICE? That's why, ladies and gentlemen, there is NO CURE! Don't let these snake oil salesmen exploit your fears, give you a false sense of security and rob you BLIND
If there were a cure, or anything close to it, why don't products like Valtrex prevent outbreaks 100% of the time while being taken? Sure they could still keep the alleged cure secret, but they could also keep those living with the virus symptom free and sell a shit lode more of their product.
I can't imagine anyone with the means not buying such a product to stay symptom free forever. As far as HIV is concerned, I often wonder how many celebrities are living so long with the virus. Magic Johnson has has it for how many years? He's still as healthy as a horse while other people die much earlier.
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