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Hi there,
Me and some friends at church just started a band and I'm the one who will be playing guitar for them. The thing is I only have a few pedals and I would like to know what you some of you recommend for building a decent rig (nothing too expensive but definitely enough to mimic the sounds of the radio).
Right now I have a Fender Strat (custom model bought here in Japan) which I am running through a ZOOM FIRE-30 (I mainly use this for practice while at home) and for distortion pedals I have the Zoom 606, Boss DS-1 and Ibanez TS-9. The ZOOM 606 is okay for practicing but I am looking for something to help expand my sound. I know that I can get the DS-1 and the TS-9 modded as well. The question is, should I get both modded or is one preferred over the other? I am also looking into getting a Boss OD-2, and possibly the DD-5. Any suggestions you guys have would be really great.
I am looking to emulate the sounds of Coldplay, U2, Switchfoot, Kutless, Relient K (just to name a few of my favorites).
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having your ds-1 and ts9 modded will, in my opinion, be the best investment of money as opposed to buying another od. if you can only get one modded, go for the ds-1. the ts9 stock sounds decent as compared to to the stock ds-1 (which sounds sterile and undynamic).
if you want nice coldplay/UT tones, a delay would be a good addition to your rig for ambient sounds.
good luck
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Originally Posted by FenderDude1981 Hi there,
Me and some friends at church just started a band and I'm the one who will be playing guitar for them. The thing is I only have a few pedals and I would like to know what you some of you recommend for building a decent rig (nothing too expensive but definitely enough to mimic the sounds of the radio).
Right now I have a Fender Strat (custom model bought here in Japan) which I am running through a ZOOM FIRE-30 (I mainly use this for practice while at home) and for distortion pedals I have the Zoom 606, Boss DS-1 and Ibanez TS-9. The ZOOM 606 is okay for practicing but I am looking for something to help expand my sound. I know that I can get the DS-1 and the TS-9 modded as well. The question is, should I get both modded or is one preferred over the other? I am also looking into getting a Boss OD-2, and possibly the DD-5. Any suggestions you guys have would be really great.
I am looking to emulate the sounds of Coldplay, U2, Switchfoot, Kutless, Relient K (just to name a few of my favorites).
Amp... amp... amp...
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i'm pretty sure johnny buckland (coldplay) uses fender hot rod devilles
as for pedals
boss tu2
proco vintage rat
boss tr2
boss rv3
boss dd5
cry baby wah
mxr micro amp
mxr phase 90
line6 dl4 (i think 2 of these)
oh yeah and +1 for post above me about amps
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yeah, what amp are you using? That makes a big difference in your sound.
You'll want a delay pedal, it's fairly essential for worship and Coldplay / U2 covers I highly reccomend the Line 6 Echo Park.
-Nick
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I went to the store to buy a Hot Rod and walked out with a Crate V-32 Palomino....amp sounds way better than the Fender Hot Rod. I believe the main difference is in the tubes...the fender uses 6l6's and the Crate uses EL84's (like Vox AC30's).
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My rig generally consists of a couple guitars and an amp. And yes, I quite definitely get a professional sound from this setup. Good guitar with a good amp is all you really need. If you're really heavy on the U2-type sound, then a delay is pretty nice to have, though it's not "fairly essential for worship" by any means (sorry to disagree with you, Nick). U2 yes, Coldplay somewhat, but not really.
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Originally Posted by Rainer. a delay is pretty nice to have, though it's not "fairly essential for worship" by any means (sorry to disagree with you, Nick)
Hmm, must just be my style I can't do without my delay.
I've heard fairly good things about the crate Palominos. Let us know what you think of it once you've messed around with it more, eyema_believer.
-Nick
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I have a Palomino as well, the V16 (15 watt version; eyema_believer has the V32, the 30 watt version). I absolutely love it. Great class A tube sound for the buck. I use it for home and leading worship (mic'd) for about 900 people. The first time I played it, I had the same presuppositions about Crates as everyone else...at least with the Palominos, those presuppositions were trashed pretty quickly.
Just a note...I just got a Fulltone Fulldrive 2 for my primary overdrive. I had been relying on a Boss OS-2 and a Tubescreamer TS9 turbo...my love for this amp leapt to a whole new level after putting the Fulldrive in front of it. Unbelievable boost in sound quality. I plan on posting more about the Fulldrive later, but seriously, it was like falling in love...I could almost hear "The Search is Over" by Survivor playing in the background as the Fulldrive informed me fully of what my amp is capable of.
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Originally Posted by Only Alive yeah, what amp are you using? That makes a big difference in your sound.
You'll want a delay pedal, it's fairly essential for worship and Coldplay / U2 covers I highly reccomend the Line 6 Echo Park.
-Nick
Like I said before, I have a ZOOM Fire-30 (40W) that I use for practicing at home. However, for the time being, I am just going to use the Keyboard/Guitar/monitor that we have at church. It pumps out about 60W so it is fairly adequate for the time being.
On a side note, why are the Crates so expensive and only like 15W? I used to practice on a little 15W when I first started playing and boy did I not like it.
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There's a HUGE difference between 15W in solid-state and 15W in tube amp, esp. class-A tube like the Palomino. Like you, I used to have a 15W solid-state amp (Crate, ironically) and it was puny, to say the least. In the Palomino I have now, the level never goes above 4 (and that's with the gain on only 3 or so), and even at that, and having been banished to the basement, my wife still complains that she can't go to sleep at night, upstairs, because I'm too loud.
As a matter of fact, many people recommend that you don't go above 20W or so in a tube amp for worship- leading purposes in smaller venues. Because: the reason people get a tube amp in the first place is the breakup caused when the tubes start to overload and the sweet, natural distortion they produce when that happens. If you got a large tube amp (say, 50W) you would have to turn the volume up so loud to get tube breakup that you would ruin the worship experience...just too loud. By getting a little smaller wattage, you can get the breakup at a lower volume suitable for worship. Even at that, I can hear my 15W pretty well over the drummer and bass player next to me.
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Quotes self:
Every great effect in the world through a crappy amp will still sound bad. Save up for a new amp.
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Originally Posted by plawren53202 There's a HUGE difference between 15W in solid-state and 15W in tube amp, esp. class-A tube like the Palomino. Like you, I used to have a 15W solid-state amp (Crate, ironically) and it was puny, to say the least. In the Palomino I have now, the level never goes above 4 (and that's with the gain on only 3 or so), and even at that, and having been banished to the basement, my wife still complains that she can't go to sleep at night, upstairs, because I'm too loud.
As a matter of fact, many people recommend that you don't go above 20W or so in a tube amp for worship- leading purposes in smaller venues. Because: the reason people get a tube amp in the first place is the breakup caused when the tubes start to overload and the sweet, natural distortion they produce when that happens. If you got a large tube amp (say, 50W) you would have to turn the volume up so loud to get tube breakup that you would ruin the worship experience...just too loud. By getting a little smaller wattage, you can get the breakup at a lower volume suitable for worship. Even at that, I can hear my 15W pretty well over the drummer and bass player next to me.
or you could have major tom make you and attunator (I spelt that wrong too)
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Originally Posted by Only Alive Hmm, must just be my style I can't do without my delay.
I can't do without my violin bow. But violin bows neccessary? I think not.
Attenuator. Attenuation is the best way to use a tube amp in worship. Even 20W can get hecka loud. Even 5W. Attenuators will cut that very well.
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No effect is essential in any way whatsoever. If you want a professional rig, get a good guitar and a good amp. Everything else is fluff. Distortion pedals are the ultimate fluff.