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Alright, i went and bought a epiphone les paul and a vox 50 tube amp. I cannot get the distortion right, on "US highgain" and with the gain control on full, i couldn't get a grungy distortion! I seriously like the distortion on my little 10w kustom WAY more! Does this mean i am a solid state guy and that i should return this amp and get a solid state, like a marshall or something? Because i do not like the distortion on this amp. Am i actually able to return an amp?
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How much did you pay for the xox? I seriously love my Valveking. If you wanna return it and get something better you might wann try the Peavey Valveking or another Peavey combo amp.
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Originally Posted by thomaspg70 How much did you pay for the xox? I seriously love my Valveking. If you wanna return it and get something better you might wann try the Peavey Valveking or another Peavey combo amp.
i payed $500.00, is a valveking solid state?
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I am thinking you might be. I can find great distortion on the Vox, but not grungy. Maybe just go buy a pedal?
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Originally Posted by earlessdog i payed $500.00, is a valveking solid state? The Valveking is a tube amp.
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Originally Posted by thomaspg70 The Valveking is a tube amp.
A really tight tube amp. I don't think it is that grungy though.
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this brings me back to the marshall microstack, i should have tried it out. Seriously, am i able to return it?
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yeah, but you don't want the micro stack. Randall has some tight solid states if thats what you are wanting.
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Vox 50? that's not a tube amp. If its one of the valvetronix is has a single preamp tube in it, but its not used a a preamp tube per se. Its a modeling amp.
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Yep tom is right you didn;t get a true tube amp, you got a hybird. Hybirds are somewhere between solid state and tube leaning more towards solid state at least i think so.
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Originally Posted by earlessdog this brings me back to the marshall microstack,
im thinking not. dont fall victim to the gimmick that this offers. marshall makes some excellent amps, but the solid state stuff isnt worth it IMO.
Originally Posted by earlessdog i should have tried it out. Seriously, am i able to return it?
Depends on where you bought it from. do you still have the box, reciept, etc.? most major distributors give you the guarantee, so no worries there.
depending on how much time you have left, i would mess around with the vox some more first. what model exactly do you have? i would also try messing around with the tone controls, and see what you can come up with. are you using on board effects? effects chain? how about more than one guitar? im not sure if this solves anything, but have you tried diming the amp to saturation? see where all of that gets you. also, when i think of vox, grunge is not what first comes to mind. did you order online? find an amp that really speaks to you before you take it home. good luck.
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Originally Posted by earlessdog this brings me back to the marshall microstack, i should have tried it out. Seriously, am i able to return it? Where did you buy the amp from?
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have you tried anything besides the "US Hi-gain"? Generally, turning the gain control all the way up = poor sound on any amp.
that being said, if you want a grungy tone, you probably don't want a hi-gain setting. I'm thinking that one of the UK models will be where you find the tone you're searching for.
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Yeah - I've got an AD30VT, which is the same with just a lower wattage, and I've been very happy with the amp. Decently tube-like with plenty of flexability.
Yeah, I'd try some of the other higher gain models - UK80 or UK Modern... even the 'numetal' amp with a lower gain setting might work better.
Start with the gain lower and work your way up. Especially the high-gain amps, turning the gain up all the way up won't really better your tone at all, and if anything, will just make it muddier. Lowering gain helps keep it controlled.
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Ok, so let's recap here:
You didn't buy a tube amp. If the guy sold it to you telling you it was a tube amp, and you bought it intending to buy a tube amp, return it. You bought a hybrid modeling amp which uses one preamp tube to warm up the signal a bit and while it is somewhat more desirable than your 10 watt practice amp, it's never going to sound like an amp with all-tube circuitry, at least your specific amp never will.
Your EQ settings seem to be more of the prblem than anything. These amps CAN sound good, and I think we all suggest that (1) Return it and go buy a REAL tube amp, possibl the Valve King mentioned in this thread, (2) give it some time dude, tweak it. You just bought it.