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Even with the delay mix all the way down, it's louder & brighter when the delay is engaged than when it is bypassed. Doesn't seem to be a battery problem. It does it with fresh ones.
I haven't determined yet if it's due to a poor bypass circuit or if it's buffered more when it's engaged, or if it's just plain louder. It gets annoying when you are using the delay on the verse of a song for little fills and stuff, then turn it off for the chorus to avoid muddying things up when you strum distorted chords. Because the percieved volume drops when it should increase from strumming harder (thus distorting more).
I need to get a dedicated adapter to power it, and that might solve the problem.
This really my first and only legit complaint about this thing though. Still an awesome delay.
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sounds to me like the delay circuitry is simply effectuing the tone, take the pedal outta the loop and see what happens.
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Originally Posted by jbm222 Even with the delay mix all the way down, it's louder & brighter when the delay is engaged than when it is bypassed.
It should be because it's not bypassed.
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I've only just noticed this problem, and I've had my Echo Park for over a year. I think the magnitude of the problem depends on the settings. We practice for church in a really odd building with weird lights and wiring, and the volume drop was noticable. Playing in church or in my room, I don't notice it.
-Nick
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Originally Posted by Building429_Boy It should be because it's not bypassed.
when the pedal is on? the question of bypass has nothing to do with volume or increased brightness. tone suckage when its off...maybe. im not sure whats going on in this case, but its undoubtedly not supposed to do that.True bypass means that the effects circuit is totally bypassed if the effects pedal is off. The guitar signal doesn't come into contact with the circuit itself. If this is not the case and the signal still goes through parts of the circuit, It's here that tone suckage takes place.
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Originally Posted by Building429_Boy It should be because it's not bypassed.
No it shouldn't. Any effect that does not give you an external volume control should operate at unity gain whether it's active or bypassed. Period.
I'm pretty sure now that it's just too high of an output level when the pedal is engaged. I might build a quick bypass box (which I could use anyway for my noisy flanger), then I can compare the EchoPark bypass to true bypass to rule out tone sucking.
BTW, I'm not trying to fix something here. I highly doubt that my delay is defective. I was just posting this to let people know that an Echo Park does this. That's why I used the word "observation" instead of "problem" in my title. And Nick's post confirms that other people have noticed it too.
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I have the same problem with mine. Its almost unbearable when I'm already using a pretty bright clean tone during worship and kick it on. I play alot of U2 sounding stuff and the echo park does nothing but give me that nasty icepick sound. I just have to remember to roll off my tone a little when I turn it on. I plan on buying a good analog delay to replace it soon.