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I don't really have money for a new amp. I have a Peavey Bravo, which many have said is a Marshall in a box. Yes, there's a lot of gain in the Bravo, especially with the gain knob pulled out. But perhaps I haven't been tweaking well enough because I haven't been able to find nice crunch, dynamics, and sustain that can satisfy me. I have an EQ pedal, so I should work that into the equation, but lately I've been using a modded Boss SD-1 with EQ into the clean channel of the Bravo for church applications. But when I want to click on the massive distortion (switching to the dirty channel) when we're jamming during practice, there's a lot of edge on the tone and I can't seem to make it less "all over the place." I just ordered new JJ EL84s soon since I've been running the Bravo with Major Tom's attenuator every week at church for 15 months now. I think it's well overdue for new tubes, and I hope that will fix the problem at least a little bit.
I've heard of Peavey 5150 (I hear there's a new name for it now?) and Mesa Dual Rectifiers and other high-gain amps that many rock bands use, but those are all high-watt, high-volume amps that are definitely not usable at my church (small sanctuary, max occupancy ~100). What other small combos or low-wattage amps are out there besides the Bravo that have some powerful distortion? If there isn't, I guess I could just find a high-gain distortion pedal...I have some money for that.
It's been a long time since I posted in this forum. School's almost out, and I finally have time to get some GAS and extra spending money.
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You might want to include your price range.
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No price range for now, just want to see what's out there. Include boutique, mass-manufactured, whatever.
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From what I hear, the new Blue Traynor combo is pretty sweet and has plenty of gain.
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Koch Multitone. (it is a dutsch amp)
Engl Sovereign
Bogner XTC 2x12 combo (but you see them not much)
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Hey There,
Well, the amp you want is the Hot Rod Deluxe 1x12 combo. This amp looks great, sounds great, and has the reputation of Fender behind it. I always enjoy playing through this amp.
An alternative is a Peavey Classic 30 with a Tubescreamer to kick it into total meltdown.
Try 'em out.
Your Bro' in Christ,
John
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fender for massive gain. Fenders are great for cleans, but massive gain. I think not, unless you are willing to run effects in front of it.
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I'd imagine a Mesa Boogie Rect-O-Verb would have a lot of gain.
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Originally Posted by tubeamp7 Hey There,
Well, the amp you want is the Hot Rod Deluxe 1x12 combo. This amp looks great, sounds great, and has the reputation of Fender behind it. I always enjoy playing through this amp.
An alternative is a Peavey Classic 30 with a Tubescreamer to kick it into total meltdown.
Try 'em out.
Your Bro' in Christ,
John
Fender HRD? I don't think so. Even a Peavey C30, which I've played through, doesn't have much overdrive by itself. You mentioned using a Tubescreamer with the C30, but I'm talking about amps by themselves that have a lot of distortion.
That Mesa Rect-O-Verb looks pretty cool. What's the difference between the Mesa Single Rectifier series and the Dual and Triple Rectifier series? Do they sound different, or is it just lower-wattage?
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Originally Posted by spmantar Fender HRD? I don't think so. Even a Peavey C30, which I've played through, doesn't have much overdrive by itself. You mentioned using a Tubescreamer with the C30, but I'm talking about amps by themselves that have a lot of distortion.
That Mesa Rect-O-Verb looks pretty cool. What's the difference between the Mesa Single Rectifier series and the Dual and Triple Rectifier series? Do they sound different, or is it just lower-wattage? There is a slight difference in tone, but they all sound "Rectifier", if that means anything. They kinda have the same general Mesa Recto tone, but from what others have told me, their tone is slightly different.
Personally, I'd stay away from the Mesa Rectos. Maybe a Tremoverb? Or a Stilletto, but I don't know if they make combo versions of those. Some of the Mark series combos have a lot of gain too.
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The Fenders Hot Rods and the Classic 30 are definitely not quite massive gain. They're moderate gain at best. But for those here (like) who are really into hard rock or metal, but don't quite need a huge amp, the HDs and Classics are not nearly high gain enough. An alternative is the Peavey Bravo which is a 60W metal-oriented 1x12.
What I'm planning to get soon (breaking the secret...) is a Marshall DSL 401, a small 40 watt 1x12 combo with lots of gain. If you look used, you'll be able to find deals, though the new version will cost you way more then it's probably worth.
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Originally Posted by Rainer. The Fenders Hot Rods and the Classic 30 are definitely not quite massive gain. They're moderate gain at best. But for those here (like) who are really into hard rock or metal, but don't quite need a huge amp, the HDs and Classics are not nearly high gain enough. An alternative is the Peavey Bravo which is a 60W metal-oriented 1x12.
What I'm planning to get soon (breaking the secret...) is a Marshall DSL 401, a small 40 watt 1x12 combo with lots of gain. If you look used, you'll be able to find deals, though the new version will cost you way more then it's probably worth.
So this is where you revealed it. Tell us what you think.
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When I get it. I was supposed to get it today, but they guy I'm getting it from hasn't gotten back to me yet, so looks like it'll be little longer...
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Let us know how it sounds. Maybe some clips too?
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Oh yeah, and the Bravo is 25W (2 EL84s), not 60W.