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What up guys,
I need some help from you "advanced" electric guitar players. I just scrapped up most of my money and bought a Les Paul (standard Gibson), and I am playing in a worship service on May 1st. Right now I have no effects, other than whats on my small practice amp. I need to know what type of effects pedals I would need. Starting with the most important...and going down. I am playing quite a few Chris Tomlin songs, so any effects that Daniel Carson uses would be helpful (starting with the most used/important). Right now I'm workin on a distortion pedal, and one for delay....but I need help on what else. If anyone is experienced and knows what Daniel uses, or what I need, please let me know. I would appreciate it,
Jagged
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You really don't need any effects. What sort of amp do you use? Does it have a decent overdrive? My "gigging" pedals for a long time was just three pedals: A Boss TU-2 Tuner into a Boss BD-2 Blues Driver into a Boss DD-5 Delay. I never felt like I was missing anything.
Anyway, here is Daniel Carson's setup from a while back (if I remember correctly here):
Fulltone Uni-Vibe
Dunlop Wah
Ibanez Tube Screamer
Pro Co RAT
Fulltone Fat Boost
Fulltone Fulldrive II
Boss TR-2 Tremolo
2x Boss DD-5 Delays (w/ two FS-5Us for tap tempo)
Line 6 DL-4 Delay (w/ Expression pedal)
Boss TU-2 Tuner
Ernie Ball Volume pedal
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I'm an effect minimalist. As long as I can get good tone, I'm happy. All you really need for worship is an amp with good cleans a little overdrive (Fender tube amps, anyone?). A delay is always very useful for slower songs, and chorus is popular too.
-Nick
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Originally Posted by LWatford You really don't need any effects. What sort of amp do you use? Does it have a decent overdrive? My "gigging" pedals for a long time was just three pedals: A Boss TU-2 Tuner into a Boss BD-2 Blues Driver into a Boss DD-5 Delay. I never felt like I was missing anything.
Anyway, here is Daniel Carson's setup from a while back (if I remember correctly here):
Fulltone Uni-Vibe
Dunlop Wah
Ibanez Tube Screamer
Pro Co RAT
Fulltone Fat Boost
Fulltone Fulldrive II
Boss TR-2 Tremolo
2x Boss DD-5 Delays (w/ two FS-5Us for tap tempo)
Line 6 DL-4 Delay (w/ Expression pedal)
Boss TU-2 Tuner
Ernie Ball Volume pedal
Since my amp is a small piece of crap practice amp, I will probably be plugging directly into a PA system through a direct box. Therefore, effects would be a must I asume. So maybe just some overdrive, a blues driver, and delay? Btw, the Tomlin songs include: Not to Us, Grace Is Enough, Forever. You seem like you really know what your talking about. If you know the specifics on the effects used in these songs, I would appreciate it also. I already have a good idea what I need. But you seem smarter than me! Thanks for the help
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If you're going direct to the PA, I'd try to beg, borrow, or rent a Line 6 something or another (POD 2, XT, etc.). Electric guitars and overdrive really really hate being plugged straight into a full range sound system.
Do you have any kind of budget?
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I could easily get a Behringer V-Amp 2 or I could use my 15watt practice amp...and run a line from the speaker output on it...into the main system (bypassing the build-in effects & running it clean). What do you think? I could also try and get a bigger amp?...whatever you think. Money isnt really an issue. I would just like to get whatever is important first. That means the most needed effect(s), and other things, etc. I sold my bigger amp, and I am using a Crate FXT15 (if u wanna check the specs). Please let me know what you think. Thanks again.
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i lived off of a dirt pedal, wah, and delay for years
those three are very useful for worship leading
dirt (overdrive/distortion) pedal: for when you need that "rock" electric guitar sound (i sound like a dork saying that, but it's true)
wah: to manipulate the signal so that you can have a nice spacious or wacky effect
delay: wonderful for atmospheric textures
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Originally Posted by JaggedZero I could easily get a Behringer V-Amp 2 or I could use my 15watt practice amp...and run a line from the speaker output on it...into the main system (bypassing the build-in effects & running it clean). What do you think? I could also try and get a bigger amp?...whatever you think. Money isnt really an issue. I would just like to get whatever is important first. That means the most needed effect(s), and other things, etc. I sold my bigger amp, and I am using a Crate FXT15 (if u wanna check the specs). Please let me know what you think. Thanks again.
If your amp is really that crappy, go with the V-amp 2. I would be looking into getting a nice small tube amp before you go for a bunch of effects.
-Nick
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Originally Posted by JaggedZero I could easily get a Behringer V-Amp 2 or I could use my 15watt practice amp...and run a line from the speaker output on it...into the main system (bypassing the build-in effects & running it clean). What do you think? I could also try and get a bigger amp?...whatever you think. Money isnt really an issue. I would just like to get whatever is important first. That means the most needed effect(s), and other things, etc. I sold my bigger amp, and I am using a Crate FXT15 (if u wanna check the specs). Please let me know what you think. Thanks again.
First, DON'T use the speaker out to run to the PA. A mic on your amps speaker will be the best solution if you're going to use your current amp.
I'd say if you're going to spend some money right now, I'd go ahead and put it in a good amp. With a good amp and a good guitar, you're about 90% of the way to most tones you'll ever want to use in a live situation. I know lots of guys love the Peavey Classic 30 or Fender Blues Jr. for medium-sized amps that aren't too bulky.
Once you've got those two most important things set, then start looking into some effects. I'd personally go with a Delay first. I used a Boss DD-5 for a really long time, and it's a great delay (it's discontinued, but you can find them used around $100, and usually they'll come with a pedal for the Tap Tempo function). If you want to spend a little more (and get a little more functionality), I'd look into either the Boss DD-20 or the Line 6 DL-4.
From there, I'd look into some other effects...maybe an overdrive for an additional drive sound, or a modulation effect (chorus, phase, tremolo, etc.). A pedal tuner (or a volume pedal and a normal tuner) is essential to me for playing live (either of these setups will let you tune silently and without unplugging your guitar).
Anyway, that's what I would do. Doesn't mean it's right or perfect (it's definatly not!), just what's worked for me.
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Originally Posted by LWatford I'd say if you're going to spend some money right now, I'd go ahead and put it in a good amp. With a good amp and a good guitar, you're about 90% of the way to most tones you'll ever want to use in a live situation. I know lots of guys love the Peavey Classic 30 or Fender Blues Jr. for medium-sized amps that aren't too bulky. Yes. A good guitar and a good amp will get you a lot further than good effects.
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agreed... if you're looking for a good overdrive pedal though and are willing to spend a fair amount of $$$ look into the fulltone fulldrive II. excellent overdrive pedal. the BD-2 is also a pretty good pedal from what i remember of it...
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how big of place are you playing worship? if its not too big you could just mike your little amp for now. as far as fx i would go with a chorus and digital delay. later you may want to add a flanger or wah. and by the way distortion/overdrive is not an effect.
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Originally Posted by guitarguy how big of place are you playing worship? if its not too big you could just mike your little amp for now. as far as fx i would go with a chorus and digital delay. later you may want to add a flanger or wah. and by the way distortion/overdrive is not an effect.
I'm playing in a building which has a full size basketball court (but the floor is like industrial carpet...its weird, but it works). So the building is bigger than a full size basketball court. If that helps. I could mike the small amp (only 15 watts!) and spend a little more on effects/mods....or I could buy a respectable amp, and spend a little less on effects/mods. What do you think? Right now i'm leaning towards buying a better, bigger, amp. Let me know what you think. I appreciate the help.
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Originally Posted by JaggedZero I could mike the small amp (only 15 watts!) and spend a little more on effects/mods....or I could buy a respectable amp, and spend a little less on effects/mods. What do you think? Right now i'm leaning towards buying a better, bigger, amp. Let me know what you think. I appreciate the help. I would reccomend getting a better amp first. However, I would not recommend getting a much bigger amp, as 15-30 watts is more than sufficient for the use you're looking to get out of it. I'd suggest looking at a Fender Deluxe Reverb, Pro Junior, or Blues Junior, or possibly a Peavey Class 30.
Ben
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Originally Posted by Benny Hicks I would reccomend getting a better amp first. However, I would not recommend getting a much bigger amp, as 15-30 watts is more than sufficient for the use you're looking to get out of it. I'd suggest looking at a Fender Deluxe Reverb, Pro Junior, or Blues Junior, or possibly a Peavey Class 30.
Ben
What about the new Crate Palomino V16 (15watt 1X12 Combo)? It's got a little overdrive built on it, with some reverb. Class "A" power tube amp also. I think it resembles the old vintage Vox AC30. Is that the sound that i'm goin for, or should I keep looking for a Fender/Peavey tube? Keep in mind that Chris Tomlin songs are mostly in our sets, so that's the main sound. What do you guys think?