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Well for about 2 years ive had a digitech rp200 and im really starting to realize how "fake" the effects sound. So now im seeking a single pedal. I don't know what kind of pedals to look for for someone like me who plays punk rock. So what are some pedals for me to consider or what type should should i look out for?? Thanks.
Rob
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price range, style preference, and what you actually play (i.e. worship team, in a band...etc)?
to try to shoot a shark blind, i'm really REALLY digging the sound of the boss ds-1 with the indyguitarist tube-emulator mod.
note that i recommended a modded version. stock sounds like...well...have you ever had toast that's been sitting around for 3 days?
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Well if you are tired of "fake" distortion you might consider not buying a pedal but getting a tube amp for real distortion. Otherwise consider Boss DS-1, BD-2 or a large quality multi-effect system like Boss GT-3, 6 or 8, or a POD XT.
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I would have to second Darryl's suggestion, but you didn't say if you were using a guitar amp... what are you using?
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Originally Posted by Major Tom I would have to second Darryl's suggestion, but you didn't say if you were using a guitar amp... what are you using? BTW Major Tom makes a WICKED tube amp attenuator for some real, thick, genuine tube amp distortion.
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Originally Posted by robfor3 Well for about 2 years ive had a digitech rp200 and im really starting to realize how "fake" the effects sound. So now im seeking a single pedal. I don't know what kind of pedals to look for for someone like me who plays punk rock. So what are some pedals for me to consider or what type should should i look out for?? Thanks.
Rob
i know exactly where you're comming from. i had an RP50 for a year. for most of that year, i thought it was great...
Originally Posted by DarylB Well if you are tired of "fake" distortion you might consider not buying a pedal but getting a tube amp for real distortion. Otherwise consider Boss DS-1, BD-2 or a large quality multi-effect system like Boss GT-3, 6 or 8, or a POD XT.
yeah. i'm not overly familiar with distortion pedals. i've never invested the money in one, and i havn't found the need to yet.
a tube amp would be a great investment if you have the money. considering this is where distortion actually comes from, this is the 'real deal' for finding distortion... prepare to pay $200-500 easily.
amp emulation is often the 2nd best option. the digitech RP series was among these, although... they were... umm... bad. very bad. i've had awesome results with the vox valvetronix stuff. for a floor unit, they are somewhere around $300-400. the high end amps are around $500+ (the floor unit is the 'brain' of the amp). and then there is the low end stuff which i'm actually recommending. $180 for a 15W AD15VT and $240 for the 30W version (AD30VT, which i have). if your looking for affordable, awesome, tube-like amp modeling, this is the amp to get. it puts the digitech to horrible shame.
be sure to check out some of the sound clips:
http://www.voxamps.co.uk/products/va...vtOverview.htm
http://www.voxamps.co.uk/products/va...t_audition.htm
http://www.voxamps.co.uk/products/va...view_movie.htm
http://www.voxamps.co.uk/support/list_demos.asp
distortion pedals might get you a good tone... if your sure thats what you want to buy. personally, i'd look elsewhere first.
happy hunting,
Tom
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A great distortion pedal into a horrible amp will still sound horrible. What amp are you using robfor3?
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Originally Posted by iAMspartacus to try to shoot a shark blind, i'm really REALLY digging the sound of the boss ds-1 with the indyguitarist tube-emulator mod.
note that i recommended a modded version. stock sounds like...well...have you ever had toast that's been sitting around for 3 days?
I'm glad someone said that. the DS-1 stock is very ugly sounding. I did the Indyguitarist Classic Rock mod, it gave it a 100% tone boost.
-Nick
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I hate that everyone always goes and recomends something other than an old fashion pedal to acheive good distortion. True, tube amps were the original overdrive, and everything sounds better through a tube amp, but you greatly limit the tones you buy one amp and only use it's distortion.
Modeling amps are great if you want a ton of different sounds in one package.
The setup I recomend is this: Get a tube amp with an incredible clean tone, then get your distortions from pedals.
Pedals are better than amp distortion because if you get sick of your tone, you can buy a new pedal a lot cheaper than a new amp.
Pedals are better than modeling amps because they are far easier to use, and don't have lots of extra junk you don't need. Plus an analog pedal with few or no op-amps in it can be much quieter than even the world's best modeling amps. Also, modeling amps tend to provide canned generic sounds. They're great for immitating, bad for innovating.
This being said, a DS-1 can be modded to sound incredible. However, I'd suggest looking around and trying out as many pedals as you can to find a sound you like. Most boss pedals are pretty good. Electro-Harmonix and MXR also consistently make good stuff. DOD has some good stuff and some terrible stuff. I don't like much Danelectro stuff, but that's just my opinion.
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Originally Posted by DarylB BTW Major Tom makes a WICKED tube amp attenuator for some real, thick, genuine tube amp distortion.
Huh?
What company does Major Tom work at? Is it a Hobby or a full time job making Power Attentuators?
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Well I have had a few distortion/overdrive pedals over the 4 to 5 years I've been playing and I would recomend the Proco Rat II. It's about 90 dollars new. And if punk rock is your thing, I know one of the guitarists from Relient K uses one.
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Originally Posted by snakecraig Huh?
What company does Major Tom work at? Is it a Hobby or a full time job making Power Attentuators?
it's just a hobby as far as i know. Tom has been building L-Pad type attenuators on request for people at CGR. I got mine for Christmas 03 (man that was a long time ago)
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The setup I recomend is this: Get a tube amp with an incredible clean tone, then get your distortions from pedals.
I will testify to this 'till the day I die (or get a Mesa/Boogie Road King). The tone that comes from my HotRod D'luxe with a 12AT7 tube in 2nd pos (for more headroom) with my Boss MD-2 in front of it is B-E-A utiful.
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to answer DarylB's question, i have a small crate amp. Ive been wanting to get a new amp for a while but i dont know what to look for..but for now all me and my band do is record. so i just need a good distortion effect for the kind of music i play..if that helps y'all a little more..
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Originally Posted by robfor3 to answer DarylB's question, i have a small crate amp. Ive been wanting to get a new amp for a while but i dont know what to look for..but for now all me and my band do is record. so i just need a good distortion effect for the kind of music i play..if that helps y'all a little more..
Well in that case, an amp modeler might be the way to go. Something like the most recent POD you can afford would probably* be much better for recording than trying to mic your crate.
*Crate has a FEW amps with good tone. And a lot of times it's better to use smaller amps for recording.