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hey guys, i was wondering i love stuff like the behringer v amp 2 it rocks sounds so cool and theres like a million things on there, but i was wondering if stompboxs have an advantage. I realize that you have the freedom to switch effects right in the middle of a song but i dont need that, i use an effect the whole way through, so im thinking the behringer v-amp 2 would be great for me. i tried it at my church (its the praise team's guitarist's v amp) i only had about 5 mins on it before my dad picked me up, but in that 5 mins i was jumpin up and down it was so cool sounding. the reason i got so excited was that i dont have any effects ( yep its true) and only have the distortion on my amp, i need effects to make things more fun and cooler sounding. tell me what you think is better of the 2 and tell me what you think of the behringer v amp 2 and tell me how sad you think it is that i dont have any effects . thx in advance.
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the V-amp2 is towards the lower end of the modeling amps in production.
the advantage i've seen of stompboxes is the simplicity of them, and the idea of turning a single effect on and off. however modelers like the V-amp, POD, etc. definitely have their place in the right context. it's all about finding out what context you are working in, and what sound you want.
oh, and there's nothing wrong with running guitar-->amp...that's what i've been doing for awhile, and i do own effects...like i said above, it's all about context, and i've definitely been doing through a minimalist phase.
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for me i think a multi effects unit would work for me. because for stompboxs just to have 1 effect i would pay $50-$120 then i would have to buy an adapter for it ( $15-$18) but with the multi effects units theres like 20 different amp sounds to try andmix it with different effects (like 20 effects) anymore feedback?
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most multi-effects units don't sound very.. pretty. If you want a better sound, I would go with individual stompbox. If you can't tell then go for the cheaper one. But for me I can tell the difference between my pod xt live and if I used my friend's pedals. If it were up to me I would have a pedalboard and my amp upstage but for church, stage volume is a constant issue that I have to deal with. Thats why I use my pod xt live direct to the PA and also to my monitor.
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the sound on the behringer v amp 2 is awesome to me, stompboxs are exspensive if u buy more then 1.
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Originally Posted by mikeman4christ the sound on the behringer v amp 2 is awesome to me, stompboxs are exspensive if u buy more then 1.
Have you tried it through your amp? Because if you haven't, then there is chance for some major disappointment as certain pieces of gear sound extremely different through another persons. And you don't need effects at all for your sound to be cool. Some of the best sounding guitar rigs ever were a guitar, amp, and cable.

Although I am using a multi-effect/amp modeler(Line 6 PODxt Live) I am still for using as little gear as possible to get the best tone. I actually needed the XT Live as my amp was dying and because my parents wouldn't let me sell it. I would have actually gone the tube route to replace the whole thing. I would not spend money on the Behringer unit though. It's better to work as long as you can with an uncolored sound before getting into effects because you'll be much better off in the long run. By the way, what is your amp at the moment?
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Originally Posted by guitarfreak217 Have you tried it through your amp? Because if you haven't, then there is chance for some major disappointment as certain pieces of gear sound extremely different through another persons. And you don't need effects at all for your sound to be cool. Some of the best sounding guitar rigs ever were a guitar, amp, and cable.

Although I am using a multi-effect/amp modeler(Line 6 PODxt Live) I am still for using as little gear as possible to get the best tone. I actually needed the XT Live as my amp was dying and because my parents wouldn't let me sell it. I would have actually gone the tube route to replace the whole thing. I would not spend money on the Behringer unit though. It's better to work as long as you can with an uncolored sound before getting into effects because you'll be much better off in the long run. By the way, what is your amp at the moment?
you speak as if im a begginer, and as for the sounding cool thing that was poorly said,i mean like experementing with different sounds and enjoying effects.
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Originally Posted by guitarfreak217 Have you tried it through your amp? Because if you haven't, then there is chance for some major disappointment as certain pieces of gear sound extremely different through another persons. And you don't need effects at all for your sound to be cool. Some of the best sounding guitar rigs ever were a guitar, amp, and cable.
often the cause of this is the fact that when you run something like a POD through an actual amp, you're double EQing and pre-amping your sound. if you're going to run through an amp i generally recommend that you flatten your EQs...but even then you're going to get the pre-amp circuits in there.
the basic idea is like this:
what's the point of running the Blackface 2x12 model (Fender 1960s era Twin) through a Fender Twin...you're doubling the EQs and adding a whole bunch of harmonics twice...it definitely has the potential to sound horrid.
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Originally Posted by thesteve often the cuase of this is the fact that when you run something like a POD through an actual amp, you're double EQing and pre-amping your sound. if you're going to run through an amp i generally recommend that you flatten your EQs...but even then you're going to get the pre-amp circuits in there.

the basic idea is like this:
what's the point of running the Blackface 2x12 model (Fender 1960s era Twin) through a Fender Twin...you're doubling the EQs and adding a whole bunch of harmonics twice...it definitely has the potential to sound horrid.
True, but, anything else can have the potential of ruining the tone of a rig, even certain guitars or amps mixed together.
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Originally Posted by guitarfreak217 True, but, anything else can have the potential of ruining the tone of a rig, even certain guitars or amps mixed together.
well at that point, there's quite a few factors that will effect tone. i thought you were specifically relating to the idea of double EQs and such.
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Originally Posted by thesteve well at that point, there's quite a few factors that will effect tone. i thought you were specifically relating to the idea of double EQs and such.
Ah, all issues sorted out.
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Originally Posted by thesteve often the cuase of this is the fact that when you run something like a POD through an actual amp, you're double EQing and pre-amping your sound. if you're going to run through an amp i generally recommend that you flatten your EQs...but even then you're going to get the pre-amp circuits in there.
the basic idea is like this:
what's the point of running the Blackface 2x12 model (Fender 1960s era Twin) through a Fender Twin...you're doubling the EQs and adding a whole bunch of harmonics twice...it definitely has the potential to sound horrid. awesome steve! thats a great point.
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Multi FX are a great place to start. As far as the modeling, like with my GENX2 and the RP2000 I had before, you can always choose "direct" for the amp model, which is no model at all, which makes it FX only for that patch. Also you can use a model, like a Marshall for example, but choose "direct" or "no cab" for the speaker sim, which can yield pretty good results thru a reasonably clean amp with some tweaking of the unit's EQ. Do not use one with the speaker sim on thru an amp though, that won't sound very good. Some of them have stompbox distortion modeling, like the GENX2 and others. I don't own the pedals they model, and I don't really use pedal distortion/OD (I use my amp's), so I'm not a pedal authority by any means, but to me they sound decent, and very much like pedals I have used in the past.
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Oh, and if you're just wanting effects, than I do hear that the Boss ME-50 is a decent enough pedal for the money.
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yea guys, im starting to think that a multi effects unit will cost over $100 and with spending money like that i could save up for a better guitar (right now i have an Ibanez Grx20 lefty) so ive decided to save up for a better electric.