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anybody know of a good multi-fx pedal i can get off of musicians friend? i need one bad.... my od and fuzz pedals are both by ibanez and i hate them, btw this is for guitar.,,
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Multi-effects = poop. Single effects = good.
What type of sound are you looking for? What type of pedals do you need/want? What' your price range?
The first type of pedals I'd reccomend are distortion, delay, chorus, and wah. What kind of amp are you using? I'd upgrade that first.
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If you really, really want multi-effects, well, we'll all be praying and fasting for you. J/K but multi-effects really suck IMO, so I can't really recomend any. I like the POD series, but only for recording.
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Well, you can get the 1000 dollar pre-amp multi-effect rackmounts. But I don't think you can spend 1000 dollars.
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yeah multi effects really are not good
if you give us a price range and some influences musically we can recommend a set up that you may like or some multi effects if your really stuck on that but i dont' recommend it
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Here's one for $80. RP-80
I have not used this one, but I had the RP-2000 and this one is the same technology electronics wise, and physically they are pretty tough - metal box, metal pedal. Multi FX units get a bad rep in general, I think a lot is due to the fact that the factory presets are extremely exaggerated, and many users never invest the time to really learn how to dial in decent tones. They provide pretty good to excellent bang for the buck. This unit for $80 can be used for effects thru a live rig, is a decent direct recording device using the amp modeling (just a patch cord from it into yer computer soundcard), and is a great headphone amp. I would have to disagree with the general statements that multi FX are "not good". Some of the effects in these are excellent, each brand model will have its strengths and weakness - the RP has a great tremelo, good wah, nice delay, good EQ, the modeling (with the cab sim turned off!) sounds good driving an amp using it like a dist. pedal - I would have to say with tweaking I like it as well as any dist pedal I have used, maybe better. The volume pedal is a useful feature too, and it doesn't have a pot to wear out - it should outlast any conventional volume pedal. The tuner is jumpy, but is useable (with some patience). I can't really speak for the chorus/flange/phaser since I don't really use those much but they sound pretty good to me. The reverb is not great, but its useable. I used mine as much for solo boost, volume and EQ tweaks as anything - my "foundation tone" is really from the amp.
Here's my 2 cents of advice:
If you are a technophobe, don't like reading manuals, or don't enjoy spending time experimenting and tweaking stuff - don't get one.
Do not bother with the factory presets, they are awful
Read the manual
Experiment
If you use it to drive an amp - turn off the cab sim (like the manual says!), otherwise it will be muddy sounding. If you use it for direct recording, driving a PA channel, or a headphone amp turn on the cab sim, otherwise it will be fizzy sounding.
When using the modeling for distortion thru an amp, you should try it with some EQ - to my ears the models need eq to sound good in that application.
Use the effects sparingly
If using to drive an amp, experiment with the output level control - as the signal strenth at the amp's input has a huge effect on the amp's tone and dynamics.

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major toms post made me remember why i hated multi effects units so much....
its true if you have the patience to tweak them then you can get decent tone, but i'm not that big of a gear head...
my real issue was that to save money with a multi effects you get a smaller unit like the rp-80 which i've played with. then your limited in what effects you can change to mid song. i'd be playing and go oh i have this cool effect i like the i set up myself in here but it takes 8 taps on the footswitch to get to it and who has time for that. or you have to move it closer to the effect you want to use it with and then the next time you want to use that effect its with yet a third effect adn you move it again adn its a no win never ending game. i'm one who likes to add subtle changes and effects as i go througout a song, its nothing for me to want to use a clean, chorus effect, overdrive, and overdrive with slight echo all on one song at some point or another in it. thats frustrating as all get out with a multi effect
all that said, if you know your not like then it may work for you, tone wise if you tweak it your alright. but if it sounds like that may be an issue for you your options are a more elaborate effects pedal or individual effects, which adds up to about the same price adn you don't have to tweak the individual effects as much
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...then your limited in what effects you can change to mid song. i'd be playing and go oh i have this cool effect i like the i set up myself in here but it takes 8 taps on the footswitch to get to it and who has time for that. or you have to move it closer...
That is exactly correct - a unit like the RP-80 is not particularly live-use friendly, depending on how you are going ot use it. That's why I bought the RP-2000 years ago as you can toggle individual effects on or off within each program. The GENX2 has replaced the RP 2000, its $299 and has that capability, I recently bought a used one and am still messin' with it. So far, I like it better than the RP, it has more parameter control over the effects, the reverb sounds are better, as is the rotary speaker sim. Boss, Korg, and others make similar units at similar prices.
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Oh yeah I forgot Korg. I have a Pandora PX4. Its a good multi-effects, but it sucks for live playing.
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I have Zoom 606II i just bought it last month.. honestly for the price(US$70), this multieffects are insane....
it has so much features... n its small n light!!
the delay n distortion r best
i strongly recommend this for poor people ( like me ) who need a quality effects
i love zoom because they make quality product at an affordable price
if you have more $$ u can get better ones of cos..
but if u have tight budget, i recommend zoom multieffects..
God bless!
Note: all this are my opinion, i know everyone hates zoom products
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Originally Posted by J.W4Christ
Note: all this are my opinion, i know everyone hates zoom products
I don't hate Zoom. I don't love it, but its not horrible. I hate Arion more than anything else.
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Originally Posted by J.W4Christ Note: all this are my opinion, i know everyone hates zoom products
no if your gonna go multi-effect i think can be alright
korg is the debil...not user friendly at all, by in large
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Multi-effect units are GOOD! First of all, there's the price issue. Most multi-effects units come with the standard array of effects (distortion, chorus, delay, phase, flange, tremolo, reverb, rotary) plus amp models and maybe even a tuner -- all that for the price of a premium single effect unit.
Costs aside, another compelling reason for using multi-effects units is that they're well-suited for a worship band setting. Having customized patches at your control makes it easy to change settings during a worship set and allows you to focus on the worship. Once you get the set list, you can tweak your patches and set them up so that each patch is a step away.
I use a Yamaha DG Stomp in our worship band -- they're discontinued, but I've heard good things about the Magic Stomp ($169). I also have a Zoom 505 II. It's a good beginner's unit but the distortion is too fizzy for my taste.
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Costs aside, another compelling reason for using multi-effects units is that they're well-suited for a worship band setting. Having customized patches at your control makes it easy to change settings during a worship set and allows you to focus on the worship. Once you get the set list, you can tweak your patches and set them up so that each patch is a step away.
That's why I like 'em - no bending over and tweaking.
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Not bad for a multi. Has all the stuff you need,but it does not have the cabinet and amp modelling. If you are happy with your amp this rig may be the way to go. I've used mine for about a year and have been happy with it. ..22 O/D,all the modulation effects,delay,compressor,pedal for wah,volume/etc. Has storage for 30 user defined patches that are actually easy to set up. Best of all it opperates just like a stomp box..
Having sung it's praises I am selling mine...I want to go back to the simplicity and sound of analog stuff....but,for $295 it's a steal..