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Hi Guys!
I am putting my first pedal board together with several pdals I have collected. I have several questions and would appreciate all the advices and corrections that you might have to offer.
1. My pedals, iN which order do I hook these up?
Reverend Drivetrain 2, Bad Monkey, Crunch Box, DD-20, DT-10 tuner, and just ordered One Spot Power source combo pack.
2. I assume that daisy chain which comes in my onespot combo pack is used to connect all the pedals to supply power.
However I also notice from looking at other pedal boards that there is another set of wires that go from each pedal to pedal. I assume this is to use them together if needed to be.
What are these wires(not daisy chain) called? where and what do I get? Does different brand matter? if yes, what do you guys recommend?
3. Am I missing any crucial items to get my pedal board started? Like other wires that I need or parts?
thanks, David
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You would have to expirement for sure. You would probably want the tuner first and the delay last. The middle is tough since they are all some type of clipping. I know the Bad Monkey has a decent EQ so you may try that in front of the others to control the tone more. I've never used the Crunch Box or the Drivetrain though.
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Originally Posted by SOngman 1. My pedals, iN which order do I hook these up?
Reverend Drivetrain 2, Bad Monkey, Crunch Box, DD-20, DT-10 tuner, and just ordered One Spot Power source combo pack.
Definately try different orders of pedals until you have until you get the desired sound that you are trying to achieve.
With that said I would start off with DT-10 --> Bad Monkey--> Drivetrain2 --> Crunch Box --> DD-20
Then try swapping the BM & DT2. These are both Tube Screamer-ish pedals with different amounts of gain and different tone controls. I'd love to hear them together
Originally Posted by SOngman 2. ...However I also notice from looking at other pedal boards that there is another set of wires that go from each pedal to pedal. I assume this is to use them together if needed to be.
What are these wires(not daisy chain) called? where and what do I get? Does different brand matter? if yes, what do you guys recommend?
Patch Cables (see link)
Originally Posted by SOngman 3. Am I missing any crucial items to get my pedal board started? Like other wires that I need or parts? Are you going to mount them on a board of some sort or set them up when you transport them?
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Patch Cables (see link)
Are you going to mount them on a board of some sort or set them up when you transport them?[/quote]
I will soon be purchasing a small pedal board. Most likely Pedaltrain Jr.
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A lot of tuners are notorious for sucking tone, due to having a relatively low impedance. I would definitely put a buffering pedal (the Bad Monkey is one) first in the chain anyway, tuner or not. The buffering amplifies the current, so that low impedance pedals don't load down the signal and "suck tone". As far as the distortion devices, I don't think it matters which goes before the others, since you'll likely only use one at a time. The delay I think should be after distortions.
BTW, Bad Monkey-wise: if you haven't already tried it... I've found, and also read that others have found, that turning the bass knob about 3/4 up, and the treble all or most of the way up will yield the most neutral/transparent tone. With them set in the middle, it has that overpowering tubescreamer mid range hump that you may or may not like, I personally don't. That's a great OD pedal IMO, with the gain down and the level up, it starts out as a clean boost, the grit it adds sounds good, the treble and bass controls let you contour its tone, and it has that direct out that is a crude amp simulator - not the greastest, but sounds half-decent as one in case of emergency.
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When you guys say put the DT-10 tuner first, you mean starting from guitar and not from amp right???
SO...
GUitar >tuner> OD>Delay> amp ? right?
thanks
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Originally Posted by SOngman When you guys say put the DT-10 tuner first, you mean starting from guitar and not from amp right???
SO...
GUitar >tuner> OD>Delay> amp ? right?
thanks Yes that's what I was thinking. Although you don't have any modulation in your chain that would affect the tracking.
As for Tom's idea about the Bad Monkey first. I've been trying to find out more about buffering pedals at the beginning of the chain. I've heard great things about it but am unclear about how this works and was unaware of any inexpensive options. If the BM is a bufferering pedal... put it first. Your tuner shouldn't any troubles tracking even if you leave it on when you tune.
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Originally Posted by BiggSteve777 Yes that's what I was thinking. Although you don't have any modulation in your chain that would affect the tracking.
As for Tom's idea about the Bad Monkey first. I've been trying to find out more about buffering pedals at the beginning of the chain. I've heard great things about it but am unclear about how this works and was unaware of any inexpensive options. If the BM is a bufferering pedal... put it first. Your tuner shouldn't any troubles tracking even if you leave it on when you tune.
Can you explain the purpose of the Modulation? What do you mean it will affect my tracking? Again, mewbie not knowing some of these terms and purpose. Is it a pedal? if so, I don't reacall seeing one of these before.
thanks, David
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Originally Posted by SOngman Can you explain the purpose of the Modulation? What do you mean it will affect my tracking? Again, mewbie not knowing some of these terms and purpose.
thanks, David modulators is a class of effects. Generally pitch modulators include things like pitch shifters and vibratos as well as chorus and flanger effects.
I'm not exactly sure what's being referenced as tracking issues either.
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Originally Posted by thesteve I'm not exactly sure what's being referenced as tracking issues either. Sorry... tracking of the tuner. It's what I call it... but not sure if it's the right term. I was referring to ability to get a good consistant reading on the tuner.
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Originally Posted by BiggSteve777 Sorry... tracking of the tuner. It's what I call it... but not sure if it's the right term. I was referring to ability to get a good consistant reading on the tuner. ohh...ok...tracking the proper pitch, for tuning accuracy. I was thinking of tracking, as in, tracking correction for old VHS tapes.
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so how does modulation help tune my guitar?
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Originally Posted by SOngman so how does modulation help tune my guitar? it doesn't...but in theory it could affect the signal your tuner receives and thus the accuracy of the tuner according to where it is in the chain.
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Originally Posted by thesteve it doesn't...but in theory it could affect the signal your tuner receives and thus the accuracy of the tuner according to where it is in the chain.
-SO is Modulation a pedal you put in front of your tunner? If yes, is it common thing to see on the pedalboard?
-ANd if I were to put tuner in the front, what can of signal can it recieve that will affect the tunning?
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Modulation refers to a class of effects which include (but are not limited to) chorus, vibrato, flange and others.
You would want these to go after your tuner. They can change the sound that the tuner picks up and you won't get an accurate reading. It's always good to have the tuner at the begining of your signal. That makes it so it won't be effected at all by any other signal other than your guitar.