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Bugera is "exclusively distributed" by Behringer...
That being said, with MSRP's like this, if they aren't sued off of the US market, and their products are decent, you're looking at being able to pick up a clone of the Peavey 6505 in a 2x12 combo with reverb for about $450 (most stores sell items at about 60% of MSRP).
I'm not really sure what I think about this...copyrights aside, I know that Behringer doesn't have the greatest reputation for liability. This may have been why they put these amps out under the Bugera name (for the longest time Bugera was a "supplier" of speakers for Behringer). Still, if these products are any good (I'd like to hold all bashing aside until they hit the market and real-world testing has been done), I can see them putting up some serious competition against B-52 and the Peavey Valveking in the low/mid pricepoint high-gain amplifier market.
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Originally Posted by thesteve Check it
Bugera is "exclusively distributed" by Behringer...
That being said, with MSRP's like this, if they aren't sued off of the US market, and their products are decent, you're looking at being able to pick up a clone of the Peavey 6505 in a 2x12 combo with reverb for about $450 (most stores sell items at about 60% of MSRP).
I'm not really sure what I think about this...copyrights aside, I know that Behringer doesn't have the greatest reputation for liability. This may have been why they put these amps out under the Bugera name (for the longest time Bugera was a "supplier" of speakers for Behringer). Still, if these products are any good (I'd like to hold all bashing aside until they hit the market and real-world testing has been done), I can see them putting up some serious competition against B-52 and the Peavey Valveking in the low/mid pricepoint high-gain amplifier market.
I wouldn't buy it simply because of the history I've had with Behringer. I'm not bashing this amp, but you can't teach an old dog new tricks.
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We all know Behringer likes to copy people. Remember when the BOSS clones came out at $20 a piece or something?
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I think its funny how they try to name all their clone products as close to the original as posible, eg 6260 instead of 5150 and TO800 for TS808.
But if it sounds like a 5150 and as reliable as one I would buy it for less than half of the cost of the original.
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Looks like the endorser on that site (Shane Gibson) plays a Carvin DC747, so it's all good.
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Originally Posted by Building429_Boy We all know Behringer likes to copy people. Remember when the BOSS clones came out at $20 a piece or something?
Originally Posted by jclardy I think its funny how they try to name all their clone products as close to the original as posible, eg 6260 instead of 5150 and TO800 for TS808.
But if it sounds like a 5150 and as reliable as one I would buy it for less than half of the cost of the original. It was one thing when they came out with the BOSS, Ibanez, etc. clones for $20 because at least it seemed like they were trying to look original. The TO800 was at least supposed to be short for "Tube Overdrive 800"...that and for some reason it seems like it's as big of a deal when you're putting out $30 clones of $120 pedals.
When you're putting out a $400 copy of a $1000 amp on the other hand, it starts to get shaky. Honestly though, I hope that they've tightened up their QC and that these amps end up being good products. While I'm bummed that they're copying Peavey so heavily, it'd be good to see some more low-priced but giggable quality amps on the market to compete with the high-priced big names.
It is a bit ironic that the copies are of Peavey amps though...as Peavey has been criticized in the past for just offering low-priced clones of big name amplifiers.
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So, a Triple XXX clone and a 6505/5150 clone.
I don't think there are quite enough similarities to sue the actual products (though I can definitely see a case about the name). It'd be interesting to try these amps to see how they stack up.
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Originally Posted by Rainer. So, a Triple XXX clone and a 6505/5150 clone.
I don't think there are quite enough similarities to sue the actual products (though I can definitely see a case about the name). It'd be interesting to try these amps to see how they stack up. Good point. Companies have been making direct clones of products for years without getting sued, so realistically I doubt it would happen.
It is interesting (to me at least) how identical the features read.
Bugera 333:
Hand-built 120-Watt amplifier driven by 4 x 6L6 valves (convertible to EL34)
Classic 3-channel preamp design (Clean, Crunch, Lead) featuring 4 x 12AX7 valves for terrifying punch and mind-blowing gain
Integrated high-class reverb with dedicated Reverb control
Independent Equalizer sections for each channel with dedicated Bass, Mid and Treble control
Damping switch (High, Medium, Low) for total sound control
Impedance switch (4, 8 and 16 Ohms) to match virtually any speaker cabinet
FX Loop with independent Send and Return level controls also serves as Boost function
Heavy-duty footswitch for Channel selection and FX Loop/Boost function included
Line output with dedicated Level control
High-quality components and exceptionally rugged construction ensure long life
Peavey Triple XXX:
120 watts into 16, 8, or 4 ohms (switchable)
Four 6L6GCs and four 12AX7s
Power amp switchable to use EL34s or 6L6GCs
Three footswitchable channels
Clean channel: volume, bass, mid, treble
Crunch channel: gain and volume - bottom, body & hair (lo, mid, hi) EQ
Ultra channel: gain and volume - bottom, body & hair (lo, mid, hi) EQ
Master volume
Footswitchable effects loop with send and return controls
Damping switch: tight, medium, loose
Line out with level control
Cover available through Peavey Accessory Program
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You'd think to be a bit more discreet, they'd choose two amps from two different companies.
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Originally Posted by Rainer. You'd think to be a bit more discreet, they'd choose two amps from two different companies. indeed. Instead they chose to copy four Peavey amps.
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There is a video of a bugera being played at NAMM on youtube here. Unfortunatly you can't really judge the amps sound quality from it.
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From a few things I've read here and there, I've gotten the impression that a large % of Behringer products are copies of someone else's products...
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Originally Posted by Major Tom From a few things I've read here and there, I've gotten the impression that a large % of Behringer products are copies of someone else's products... Yeah...I've read similar...I know their bass amps (at least the Ultrabass BX300 and BX450) look to be Ashdown clones and their new "BVT" line is an obvious take on Ampeg's SVT bass amps. their mixers are supposedly Mackie clones
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Behringer was sued by Mackie a few years ago for ripping off their mixer designs. Mackie lost, IIRC.
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articl...18/ai_19518852
http://www.loudtechinc.com/news/1999/01111999.html
So there's established precedent of them doing just that.
The bugera site, though, seems to be presenting itself as its own company distributing its products via Behringer.
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Their digital USB mixer looks alot like the Aleisis version. The "V-Amp" is a POD 2.0 clone (plus the amps which are a lot like the Spiders), the "Guitar Link" is a GuitarPort clone, so Line 6 is fair game. Their mics are probably taken right off the MXL page. Of course the necessary SM58 clone. And the afroementioned lots of classic pedal clones.
I must say I use a Behringer mixer, my band's bassist uses an Ultrabass amp, and I've made pretty good use of their DIs. Pretty hard to beat the prices.