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I'm not a big fan of cheapo effects, but I need reverb on vocals for a gig on Nov. 5th, and I want to spend as little cash on the gig as possible. I'm already buying a keyboard and a SM57, so I thought the Dano Corned Beef would be a relatively small investment, with hopefully big return. With the kind of gig it is (christmas craft fair) I don't care if the reverb doesn't sound that great, as long as it doesn't degrade the signal quality too much.
Is the Corned Beef an option, or should I pass?
-Nick
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it's a Dano mini...you'll either love it, hate it, or realize it's a one trick pony that does it's trick amazingly well but can't do much else.
I had the chance to pick one up awhile ago for $17...i wish i had.
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I would bet it would work just fine. I've got two Dano mini pedals, and they both perform surprisingly well.
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I haven't heard what corned beef does to a signal, but I using guitar effects with vocals is a bad idea.
You may have heard about guitarists who are really picky about their pedals for tone, and thats because (correct me if i'm wrong), most effects process through quite a narrow frequency, and strangle the higher and lower frequencies. With a guitar, there are fewer frequencies which means that it isn't so bad, but with vocals where there are many more frequencies and are more prone to loss, cheap effects aren't a great idea.
If you are playing in a decent venue, they may have a good desk that you can ask to add some reverb to.
Also, try looking on ebay for cheap rack effectors, which you can apply to a vocal after going to the mixer.
Hope thats of some help!
Oh, and you can always forget all that. Sometimes having a really scratchy, crappy sounding vocal can be effective. Damien Rice (secular but good) uses a distorted effect on his vocal in one song, and it sounds cool!
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Originally Posted by telecasting I haven't heard what corned beef does to a signal, but I using guitar effects with vocals is a bad idea. i used to have a video of At the Drive-In's "One Armed Scissor" live. Cedric had a full on floorboard for just the vocals. he had it on a table and was hitting the pedals with his hands...it was cool.
but yeah...vocals through guitar effects can sound bad...but it may just sound rad.
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Usually, I think the "vocals through guitar effects" problem is the result of failed signal conversion (XLR level to Line level; most people probably just use a little plug-style adapter instead of a direct box or an impedance adapter), and not the result of the frequency range of the pedals. Most of the voice's most pleasing frequencies lie in the guitar's range, anyway (1K-5K, I think). If you want to make sure your pedals can handle it, go ahead and get pedals made for bass guitars instead of for standard guitars, since they tend to have a larger frequency response range (both below AND above the regular guitar pedal range).
In His love,
Nate
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I have the Dano Pb & J Delay and it sounds great, I dont see why a reverb by them would sound any worse. I look at Dano as the 'poor person MXR'. Their distortions and overdrives arent that great, but modulations rock. Phasers only have 1 parameter knob, you get the picture.
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Originally Posted by SoapbarII I have the Dano Pb & J Delay and it sounds great, I dont see why a reverb by them would sound any worse. I look at Dano as the 'poor person MXR'.
Actually, I've found I can use my PB&J like a reverb. Just create the effect by cutting the repeat and delay times to almost nothing and it becomes a reverb effect. Get the PB&J and you have two pedals in one.
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Originally Posted by Nate Usually, I think the "vocals through guitar effects" problem is the result of failed signal conversion (XLR level to Line level; most people probably just use a little plug-style adapter instead of a direct box or an impedance adapter), and not the result of the frequency range of the pedals. Most of the voice's most pleasing frequencies lie in the guitar's range, anyway (1K-5K, I think). If you want to make sure your pedals can handle it, go ahead and get pedals made for bass guitars instead of for standard guitars, since they tend to have a larger frequency response range (both below AND above the regular guitar pedal range).
In His love,
Nate
I will indeed be using a DI box before the reverb.
Interesting fact about the bass effects....
-Nick
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Originally Posted by Only Alive I will indeed be using a DI box before the reverb.
Interesting fact about the bass effects....
-Nick
Actually... come to think of it, I think the reverse of a direct box would be what you need (unless you can find a direct box with an XLR input). I don't know what I was thinking. Just make sure that your mic signal is up to line level before trying to use the effects, that's all.