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-Price Range - $600 and below
-Necessity - I will be playing on the platform at church. I will be running the amp through the line out into the PA or soundsystem. Thus, I need a line out out the amp. I do not want to run it through the headphones jack or mic it. I also want to be able to hear myself through bassist and drums being played.
-Frequency - I will be playing every church service. Twice on Sundays and once on Wednesdays, plus whatever special youth rallys or special service we will host.
-Musical Style - I will playing rhythm guitar at church, with a few lead parts. We play contemporary christian music mostly. We play a lot of Chris Tomlin, Matt Redman, and Michael W. Smith. I personally like the sounds of RHCP, The Fray, Snow Patrol, Nickelback, Stone Sour, White Stripes, The Strokes, and My Chemical Romance. I know these are not Christian Bands but I like the sounds they produce in their rhythm section. I really want an amp the will compliment the lead guitarist. Our lead guitarist plays through 3 effects mainly when doing lead riffs: clean, distorted, and wah-wah.
-Current Setup - I play on a 1972 Deluxe Telecaster Reissue and I am currently using a Behringer practice amp. My amp is way too small to be played with a full band and lacks effects. I currently have no effects pedals which I use. I would like to have some effects on the amp such as a clean, overdrive, reverb, chorus, or wah-wah with a footswitch to control. I don't need an amp with all these effects just a few, those are my preferences as far as effects are concerned.
-Experience - I have been playing guitar for over 4 years now. I have tried a few amps but I am honestly naive when it comes to amps. I know I want an amp with 50+ watts. I have tried out Hughes and Kettner Matrix 100 combo and a Crate but I can't remember the model off the top of my head.
-Personal Research - I know that I want a 50+ watt amp. I am still undecided on the solid state vs. tube debate. I don't want to do the stack amp option, if possible.
-Shopping - There are 2 local shops that I am looking at. I am also going to shop at Guitar Center.
-Timeline - I want it ASAP and will have the money this upcoming friday with my paycheck.
Sorry in advance for any errors or typos.
Any other questions I'll be more than happy to answer. Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.
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Since you're only going Line Out.. That basically cuts tube amps out of the picture. Have you thought about using a modeler? Like a Pod XT Live or Boss GT-8 type thing?
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Not I haven't really thought about that route. Like I said I am well educated about guitars but naive when it comes to amps. Could you explain this for me?
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Ok, so basically the Pod XT Live is a solid state device that models like 30something tube amps, plus it has effects, wah, volume, reverb, etc. I use mine with headphones for practice and it sounds great going straight into the board. Check it out here.
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a typical line out of an amp will sound gross. A micd amp always will sound better (unless its a modeling amp)
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And before you turn away from the POD XT live just because it has models, go actually spend some significant time with it. I spent about 45 minutes with one recently, which wasn't enough, but it was enough for me to definitely gain a pretty positive opinion about it. I was fairly impressed, and I think I might buy one.
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Why will the line out sound gross? Our bassist and lead guitarist at church use these and they sound good to me.
How much does a modeler cost?
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Originally Posted by quartermiler45 Why will the line out sound gross? Our bassist and lead guitarist at church use these and they sound good to me. What kind of amps do they have?
Usually line out on amps sucks because the sound isn't going through the speaker at all, though cab simulators can fix that.
Depends on which modeler you get, but the Pod XT Live is $400 new. I got mine for $200 used.
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I am unsure what the bassist uses as an amp. The lead guitarist uses a Crate but I am unsure of the model. How can I use the line out and it still be able to get a good sound through the PA?
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Originally Posted by quartermiler45 I am unsure what the bassist uses as an amp. The lead guitarist uses a Crate but I am unsure of the model. How can I use the line out and it still be able to get a good sound through the PA? Of an amp or modeler? Modelers are designed for this. Amps aren't.
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Which would be a better option buying an amp that will be able to fill the church auditorium by itself and not run it through the PA system or use a modeler and run it through the PA system? Also if I buy a modeler do I still need an amp? I know this may be a dumb question but I naive on this subject.
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Originally Posted by quartermiler45 -Price Range - $600 and below
-Necessity - I will be playing on the platform at church. I will be running the amp through the line out into the PA or soundsystem. Thus, I need a line out out the amp. I do not want to run it through the headphones jack or mic it. I also want to be able to hear myself through bassist and drums being played.
-Frequency - I will be playing every church service. Twice on Sundays and once on Wednesdays, plus whatever special youth rallys or special service we will host.
-Musical Style - I will playing rhythm guitar at church, with a few lead parts. We play contemporary christian music mostly. We play a lot of Chris Tomlin, Matt Redman, and Michael W. Smith. I personally like the sounds of RHCP, The Fray, Snow Patrol, Nickelback, Stone Sour, White Stripes, The Strokes, and My Chemical Romance. I know these are not Christian Bands but I like the sounds they produce in their rhythm section. I really want an amp the will compliment the lead guitarist. Our lead guitarist plays through 3 effects mainly when doing lead riffs: clean, distorted, and wah-wah.
-Current Setup - I play on a 1972 Deluxe Telecaster Reissue and I am currently using a Behringer practice amp. My amp is way too small to be played with a full band and lacks effects. I currently have no effects pedals which I use. I would like to have some effects on the amp such as a clean, overdrive, reverb, chorus, or wah-wah with a footswitch to control. I don't need an amp with all these effects just a few, those are my preferences as far as effects are concerned.
-Experience - I have been playing guitar for over 4 years now. I have tried a few amps but I am honestly naive when it comes to amps. I know I want an amp with 50+ watts. I have tried out Hughes and Kettner Matrix 100 combo and a Crate but I can't remember the model off the top of my head.
-Personal Research - I know that I want a 50+ watt amp. I am still undecided on the solid state vs. tube debate. I don't want to do the stack amp option, if possible.
-Shopping - There are 2 local shops that I am looking at. I am also going to shop at Guitar Center.
-Timeline - I want it ASAP and will have the money this upcoming friday with my paycheck.
Sorry in advance for any errors or typos.
Any other questions I'll be more than happy to answer. Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.
Try the B-52 AT-112 http://www.b-52stealthseries.com/AT112.html
I have it's big brother. It has amazing, sparkling cleans, and some potentially stunning distortion.
Or perhaps the Valveking
Originally Posted by quartermiler45 I am unsure what the bassist uses as an amp. The lead guitarist uses a Crate but I am unsure of the model. How can I use the line out and it still be able to get a good sound through the PA?
More than likely that Crate is a solid state amp, it could be tube, but it's not very likely. This can get into a heated debate, but most of the people i know prefer a tube amp. Miking it is completely necessary thugh if you wanna have good tone.
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So I would have to mic the B-52, correct? What are some pros and cons to solid state and amp. I really would like a all around good amp that I can play at church and spend around $600, although it seems like this may be a lot more complicated than what I had originally thought.
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Originally Posted by quartermiler45 So I would have to mic the B-52, correct? What are some pros and cons to solid state and amp. I really would like a all around good amp that I can play at church and spend around $600, although it seems like this may be a lot more complicated than what I had originally thought.
Mic'ing it would sound best even with an SS amp... A good bit of tone is derived from the speaker so you stick a nice mic in front of it, you don't lose that tone...
SS amps are more reliable, they last longer, but IMO and a lot of opinions, they sound cold and shallow. They don't break up as fast, but watt for watt they are quieter. They also depreciate in value fairly quickly (well unless you have a high end one like an Acoustic)...
Tube amps hold their value. They sound warmer and richer in my opinion, especially distorted. Though they can cost a bit to maintain.
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I have seen this in other threads but what is all involved in maintaining a tube amp?
And is there any brands and models that anyone can suggest on my budget, guitar, style of playing, and circumstance?