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this sprang out of the talk in another thread about why amps are so often judged by their ability to do metal.
my guess would be that, due to the simplicity of some punk/hard rock/metal bands song's, it's easy for alot of people to play their songs. so, they go and try and find an amp that fits the bill. also, even with the more complex stuff, these types of music are getting more and more popular, at least were i live.
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Originally Posted by What5647 this sprang out of the talk in another thread about why amps are so often judged by their ability to do metal.
my guess would be that, due to the simplicity of some punk/hard rock/metal bands song's, it's easy for alot of people to play their songs. so, they go and try and find an amp that fits the bill. also, even with the more complex stuff, these types of music are getting more and more popular, at least were i live. I think there's a lot of people who are into music that requires high gain amplification. However, they are also being told that tube tone is the end-all to amplification. Thus, when they go amp shopping they just look in the back of the amp, see tubes and think, "oh man...this will get the tone I want". What they don't realize is that they're looking in a Fender Twin Reverb with it's whopping 3 gain stages (two post EQ) when what they want is a Peavey 5150 which has 6 gain stages before hitting the EQ.
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It is probably because stuff like blues, rock, country or whatever all can be dialed in on most amps, even on cheap ones like a Valve Junior, which can do blues and classic rock. Only a few amps have enough gain to handle metal, like the 5150 or a Mesa Boogie triple rec.
Although if you add a high gain pedal and output your amp to a closed back 4x12 cab you will have a great metal tone (With a bit of eq'ing..)
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Because metal is the standard by which all other forms of music are judged.
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Originally Posted by What5647 this sprang out of the talk in another thread about why amps are so often judged by their ability to do metal.
my guess would be that, due to the simplicity of some punk/hard rock/metal bands song's, it's easy for alot of people to play their songs. so, they go and try and find an amp that fits the bill. also, even with the more complex stuff, these types of music are getting more and more popular, at least were i live.
Are they?
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Originally Posted by guitargeek6298 Because metal is the standard by which all other forms of music are judged. it is? since when?
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it is? since when?
Since January 1st, 1986 when Metallica released Master of Puppets.
I'm pretty sure it's on CGR's FAQ somewhere :P
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Originally Posted by guitargeek6298 Because metal is the standard by which all other forms of music are judged.
[off topic, potentially flamebaiting but I just have to get it out] I agree. Without metal, we'd need something else to describe as "the worst ever" and the whole judging scale would have to be re-written, probably with rap at the bottom this time. [/off topic, potentially flamebaiting but I just have to get it out]
I think the answer to the original poster's question has already been answered. A lot of metal players want to get really nice equipment, and so they hear that tube amps are great and then they go and find a tube amp that just won't break up harshly no matter what you do. It's got to be frustrating when you're trying to make an amp sound like that (IMO, terrible) but you can't seem to. What they really need might be something that's solid state and a lot cheaper than what they sometimes end up with.
Nate (my amp doesn't do metal)
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Originally Posted by guitargeek6298 Since January 1st, 1986 when Metallica released Master of Puppets.
I'm pretty sure it's on CGR's FAQ somewhere :P Why not 1983 with the release of "Kill 'Em All"?
and for what it's worth, I doubt January 1st, 1986 was the release date for Master of Puppets. Amazon.com simply lists "Jan 1st" as the release date for older albums for which they don't know the actual release date.
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uh, i didn't post this to get a question answered, more to take the discussion from a place were it was off-topic and give it it's own thread.
nate, not trying to flame, but the "metal is the most awful stuff out there" crowd is just as annoying as the "ZOMG! metal is the only music" crowd. many metal players have alot of respect for many other genres of music, yet their music is among the most commonly flamed by some of the artists they admire.
maybe those artists are jealous.
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Originally Posted by What5647 many metal players have alot of respect for many other genres of music, yet their music is among the most commonly flamed by some of the artists they admire.
maybe those artists are jealous. I think you'll find this true with the more technical "originators" so to speak...the prog metal guys like Vai and Petrucci. However, I've found that other bands that tend to fall under the umbrella of metal (particularly alot of metalcore bands) really are guys who can tune drop C and have very little respect for anything that isn't "chugga chugga" like a freight train.
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the "chugga chugga" you describe isn't all that bad as long as it's counterbalanced with a sweeter melody.. my favorite bands have always been those that you can't pin to one genre but do each pretty well...
and as for metal, some metal is reallly really bad, but that goes from artist to artist, while i love Metallica there are a lot of metal band i hate... at the same time i like some contemporary christian, but there's a WHOLE LOT that i dislike...
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Why not 1983 with the release of "Kill 'Em All"?
Because Kill 'Em All was awful In all seriousness, though, Master of Puppets really is the album that seems to have influenced metal in general vs. KEA. I don't know too many metalheads that cite KEA as inspiring them, while everybody and their brother rocks out to Master of Puppets. Just my own observations, though.
Well, I did my best. I wasn't sure of the exact date, so I thought Amazon would be accurate.
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Originally Posted by guitargeek6298 Because Kill 'Em All was awful In all seriousness, though, Master of Puppets really is the album that seems to have influenced metal in general vs. KEA. I don't know too many metalheads that cite KEA as inspiring them, while everybody and their brother rocks out to Master of Puppets. Just my own observations, though.
Well, I did my best. I wasn't sure of the exact date, so I thought Amazon would be accurate. so back to the question at hand...
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i think it's been answered... already...