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Chords differences.
Question: Hi, what are the differences in a Csus, Csus1, and C cord? Answer: Hopefully this will get moved to the Theory and Technique forum...... Csus - an ambiguous (not clear) name for a chord. Usually means the same as Csus4 spelling: CFG (the tension you hear wants to resolve to CEG) Csus1 - an incorrect name for a chord. Probably means Csus2, but not sure. If so: spelling: DEG (the tension you hear wants to resolve to CEG) C - refers to a C Major triad, sometimes called "straight C" (as in nothing fancy) spelling: CEG Nate Answer: On a guitar... C is X 3 2 0 1 0 Csus is X 3 3 0 1 1 I don't know of a Csus1 chord. Answer: Err... Csus2 is CDG, not DEG. And, on the guitar... x3x033 or x35533 Csus1, I will reiterate, is nothing at all. There is no such chord. Answer: Then lets make one up, no one will ever know......... Answer: It's logically impossible, and I'll tell you why. Sus chords are formed by removing the 3rd and replacing it with the specified interval. Thus, a sus2 has no 3rd but has a 2nd. If you were to remove the 3rd and replace it with the 1st (root), you would be left with the 1st and the 5th. Though that is commonly called a "power chord," it is not actually chord. It is an interval. Summary: Csus1 = C fifth =/= chord. Answer: Originally Posted by bobthecockroach Err... Csus2 is CDG, not DEG. In practical guitar playing, you are correct. In music theory, I believe to suspend a note in a chord is to replace it with the scale degree one above. It does make for some interesting tension, and it is often practically done with the root still being played, but I don't think that the root is technically a vital part of the sus2 chord (and in that lies the tension waiting for resolution). Practically, though, I still play chords that are written sus2 with the root included. Nate Answer: Originally Posted by nate95366 In practical guitar playing, you are correct. In music theory, I believe to suspend a note in a chord is to replace it with the scale degree one above. It does make for some interesting tension, and it is often practically done with the root still being played, but I don't think that the root is technically a vital part of the sus2 chord (and in that lies the tension waiting for resolution). Practically, though, I still play chords that are written sus2 with the root included. Nate http://scenicnewengland.net/guitar/chords/susp.htm Answer: You're both missing something, actually. In classical music theory, what we usually call a "sus2 chord" is a suspension (meaning a dissonant note suspended [read: "raised above"] its resolution; they used to name chords by their resolutions, not by their dissonances as we do today) that occurs above the root of a chord. However, it is nearly impossible to find such a suspension in classical repertoire that does not have both the root and the third included in the chord along with the suspension. The root is included because, unlike a sus4 chord where the dissonance is a half-step away from the resolution, it does not clash terribly with the dissonance, and because it such a critical chord member that it is almost always bad to leave it out. The third is included because it is not part of the dissonance-resolution relationship that is set up with the actual suspension itself, and because it is also a critical chord member. However, it's perfectly acceptable to leave either the root or the third (or even both) out, as it is the actual downward motion of the suspended note that really matters in the sus2 chord, and not the particular dissonant sonority that is created at the moment you play the sus2 chord. Of course, many modern songs never resolve sus2 chords... in which case they're really functioning as add9's. Answer: Originally Posted by KJSol Hi, what are the differences in a Csus, Csus1, and C cord? I was refering to the tabs below. More To This Life Steven Curtis Chapman and Phil Naish (1 Tim. 6:19; John 10:10; Rom. 5:17) * Chords used: Gsus Gsus1 Emsus Am Bmsus Csus Csus1 Dsus D Em E -3- -3- -3- --- --- -3- -3- -3- -2- --- B -3- -3- -3- -1- -3- -3- -3- -3- -3- --- G --- -2- --- -2- -2- --- -2- -2- -2- --- D --- --- -2- -2- --- -2- --- --- --- -2- A -2- x -2- --- -2- -3- -3- --- --- -2- E -3- -3- --- --- --- --- x --- --- --- Answer: The chords being shown are sus2 chords. The tab is wrong. Sus1 chords do not exist. Answer: unfortunately a lot of tabs like that, that you'll find online, are rarely very accurate Answer: This cord is posted on CGR, isn't this a wrong cord tab? Chord: Bm Tab: x24432 Shouldn't it be x24422 I believe for a Bm cord, it has to have a C#. ........................................................................ Never mind. I forgot the D# drops to D. Is it possible though, to have a Bmsus? Answer: Nope. x24422 is Bsus2. Bm is B, D, and F#. http://scenicnewengland.net/guitar/chords/theory.htm Answer: Nate, can a sus2 cord still keep the third. Making it 1235? It still sounds good. Kyle... Originally Posted by Nate You're both missing something, actually. In classical music theory, what we usually call a "sus2 chord" is a suspension (meaning a dissonant note suspended [read: "raised above"] its resolution; they used to name chords by their resolutions, not by their dissonances as we do today) that occurs above the root of a chord. However, it is nearly impossible to find such a suspension in classical repertoire that does not have both the root and the third included in the chord along with the suspension. The root is included because, unlike a sus4 chord where the dissonance is a half-step away from the resolution, it does not clash terribly with the dissonance, and because it such a critical chord member that it is almost always bad to leave it out. The third is included because it is not part of the dissonance-resolution relationship that is set up with the actual suspension itself, and because it is also a critical chord member. However, it's perfectly acceptable to leave either the root or the third (or even both) out, as it is the actual downward motion of the suspended note that really matters in the sus2 chord, and not the particular dissonant sonority that is created at the moment you play the sus2 chord. Of course, many modern songs never resolve sus2 chords... in which case they're really functioning as add9's. Copyright © 2007 - 2008 www.thanktoday.com
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