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If you have done or decided on one of these things before please share thine experience. Myself and most likely many others are trying to figure out exactly wich we should do. Persuade us that what you did is either the best, alright, or just sucked period. Help us out here.
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I went to college for a year, then I worked for a couple years, before I joined the military. I enjoyed all of them, but I found my niche with the Royal Canadian Electrical and Mechanical Engineers. I did basic training in St. Jean, Quebec, then did my Soldier Qualification course at the Combat Training Centre in Gagetown, New Brunswick, then did my trade qualification course in Borden, Ontario, then was posted to the 5e Batallion de Soutien General in CFB Valcartier, Quebec. I completely enjoy my work, and can't see anything else I'd rather do right now. If there are a few things that you want to do, then I recommend trying them all, and finding what you enjoy most. Keep in mind that most people change careers three to four times throughout their working lives, so the more experience that you get, the more options are available to you.
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I am still trying to finish college, I almost did the army, but its not for me. quite simply, it comes down to what has God called you too. I can't get done what he has called me to do, without having done college.maybe you can; and if so, then great.
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im going to tell you the same thing i told another guy im in the army i actually just got off. take all your civilian options first because once youre in the army theres no getting out you can just say hey i dont like this.....and you WONT like it for about the first 8 months or so.lets just say i woke up at 530 this morning its now 1000 yes 161/2 hours and i just got off work 5 minutes ago....so think about it
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Originally Posted by BrokenIce im going to tell you the same thing i told another guy im in the army i actually just got off. take all your civilian options first because once youre in the army theres no getting out you can just say hey i dont like this.....and you WONT like it for about the first 8 months or so.lets just say i woke up at 530 this morning its now 1000 yes 161/2 hours and i just got off work 5 minutes ago....so think about it
Not true. You can get out anytime you want. Especially during basic training, all you have to do is write a memo requesting release, and they send you on your way.
My hours during basic were from 0530 to 2300, with classes all day until supper (and you got a bollocking if you fell asleep), and kit and quarters until lights out. But they keep you busy enough that you don't really notice it. Wheather or not you like it depends on you. I loved basic training. We had a blast. We'd go through eachother's quarters and do inspections like the instructors, flip beds, toss kit, and chew them out, then tell eachother how this mess needs to be sorted out...Yesterday! I used to impersonate the Sergeant by calling the room to from behind a corner, and we'd laugh ourselves silly watching people snap up.
Then I did my Soldier Qualification course, and the instructors there (all RCR sergeants), were absolutely hilarious. "Giff," Sgt. Crowley said to me one day, "If you were a professional wrestler, what would your name be?" Without missing a beat, I said, "The Giffinator, Sergeant." He started laughing, then asked me what my finishing move was. "Forward spinning crescent kick, Sergeant," I said. Then the 3 Section Sergeant came over and asked me if I could name the four types of flares. "Um...Trip flares, para flares, pen flares...What other kinds are there?" I asked. "Ric Flare," he answered, Whooooooooooo!"
Then when I was on my trade course, I took one of the instructors hostage with the toy gun he'd been shooting people with. I was standing behind him, and he dropped it into his shop coat pocket, so I grabbed him in a choke from behind with my left arm while my right reached into his pocket, took the gun, and stuck it to his head. Then I started to walk him backwards out of the room. When I let him go, he turned around, saw that it was me, then just shook his head and laughed. "You always have to watch out for the quiet ones..."
Military life is entirely what you make of it right from day one; it can be a lot of fun, or it can be miserable. Personally, I recommend that people pursue what they really want to pursue, be it martial or civil. And if you try the military for three years or so, and find that you don't like it, then no harm done, you can always find something else. I spent four years after school puttering until I found where I wanted to go. If I'd joined right away, I could be a corporal by now, QL5 qualified, or even possibly commissioned as an officer, if I chose to pursue the education required. Some people get locked into a career that they hate for 30 years, and never try to find anything else, and I couldn't hack the thought of churning plastic mulitport valves for swimming pools off an assembly line for the rest of my working life. I knew what I wanted to try, so I went for it, and here I am, three years later, completely in my plate.
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So i just finished up four years in the marines. There were some things about it that were stupid, somethings that were awesome. It really does depend on you attitude. I would definately encourage anyone to go into the military. Army, Airforce, Navy, Marine corp. I got so much out of it, lost of experience. I made alot of good friends. I got my college paid for with the gibill. So yeah if your able and willing it a pretty good deal.
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Grasshopper 359 said: Not true. You can get out anytime you want. Especially during basic training, all you have to do is write a memo requesting release, and they send you on your way.
That may be how it is in Canada, but it is not that way in the US army. Once you're in, you're in. There are exceptions like mental health chapters, bad conduct chapters, etc that will get you out. But it is a legally binding contract that you sign. So here's what happened to me:
I was skating through college and ended up going into the US Army enlisted instead of my junior year because God pretty much told me to be in the Army. I've been in now for 2 and a half years. I got married right before I got in, and I am now a father of a 7 month old. Here's the good part: You've got an extremely stable job for as long as you want it. The pay is enough to support a family on one income, work hours are pretty good at home station, and they make you stay fit. I'm a chaplain's assistant and I enjoy the work, it's a really good job. HOWEVER, I am right now deployed in Iraq, which in itself is not so bad, and I am very proud to be able to serve my country and my fellow soldiers, but after 12 months here (ending in June) i will have spent more time away from my wife than with her since we got married, and I will have spent 2 weeks with my 11 month old daughter. That sucks. A lot. Plus, we're delploying at a year home year away rate right now. Not a great situation if yu want to spend a lot of time with family. If I was single, I wouldn't really find anything wrong with it at all, it really is a great life to live. But with all things, I would do a lot of praying and thinking about the calling that Christ has on your life and go with that above all things. Best of luck to you.
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Well, I joined the ARMY national guard. I will go to school and be in the Military.
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Originally Posted by Grasshopper359 Not true. You can get out anytime you want. Especially during basic training, all you have to do is write a memo requesting release, and they send you on your way.
My hours during basic were from 0530 to 2300, with classes all day until supper (and you got a bollocking if you fell asleep), and kit and quarters until lights out. But they keep you busy enough that you don't really notice it. Wheather or not you like it depends on you. I loved basic training. We had a blast. We'd go through eachother's quarters and do inspections like the instructors, flip beds, toss kit, and chew them out, then tell eachother how this mess needs to be sorted out...Yesterday! I used to impersonate the Sergeant by calling the room to from behind a corner, and we'd laugh ourselves silly watching people snap up.
Then I did my Soldier Qualification course, and the instructors there (all RCR sergeants), were absolutely hilarious. "Giff," Sgt. Crowley said to me one day, "If you were a professional wrestler, what would your name be?" Without missing a beat, I said, "The Giffinator, Sergeant." He started laughing, then asked me what my finishing move was. "Forward spinning crescent kick, Sergeant," I said. Then the 3 Section Sergeant came over and asked me if I could name the four types of flares. "Um...Trip flares, para flares, pen flares...What other kinds are there?" I asked. "Ric Flare," he answered, Whooooooooooo!"
Then when I was on my trade course, I took one of the instructors hostage with the toy gun he'd been shooting people with. I was standing behind him, and he dropped it into his shop coat pocket, so I grabbed him in a choke from behind with my left arm while my right reached into his pocket, took the gun, and stuck it to his head. Then I started to walk him backwards out of the room. When I let him go, he turned around, saw that it was me, then just shook his head and laughed. "You always have to watch out for the quiet ones..."
Military life is entirely what you make of it right from day one; it can be a lot of fun, or it can be miserable. Personally, I recommend that people pursue what they really want to pursue, be it martial or civil. And if you try the military for three years or so, and find that you don't like it, then no harm done, you can always find something else. I spent four years after school puttering until I found where I wanted to go. If I'd joined right away, I could be a corporal by now, QL5 qualified, or even possibly commissioned as an officer, if I chose to pursue the education required. Some people get locked into a career that they hate for 30 years, and never try to find anything else, and I couldn't hack the thought of churning plastic mulitport valves for swimming pools off an assembly line for the rest of my working life. I knew what I wanted to try, so I went for it, and here I am, three years later, completely in my plate.
Canandians...you guys are great....Making life so simple we just don't understand it...lol....
My uncle was in the Black Watch....
was this a completly random post? If so...i'm sorry, i can't sleep and i'm really tired...
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Originally Posted by TruthWarrior Canandians...you guys are great....Making life so simple we just don't understand it...lol....
My uncle was in the Black Watch....
was this a completly random post? If so...i'm sorry, i can't sleep and i'm really tired...
Ah, the Black Watch. (The Royal Highland Regiment of Canada, for those unfamiliar with Canada's army - militia infantry regiment based in Montreal). Very respectable regiment. They're good soldiers, too. The Germans during the First World War called them, "The Ladies From Hell," due to their tenacity, and their kilts.
Most Western armies these days provide a means of voluntary release (we do, the British do, the French do, the Germans do, heck, even the French Foreign Legion has a one year probationary period during which you can cancel your contract). It comes down to the fact that if someone really doesn't want to be there, then they're not going to be an asset to the Army. They're doing better to absorb the short-term loss of training costs, and let the person go, then hire someone else who wants to be there. And since the selection process is pretty accurate in determining who wants to be there and who doesn't, there aren't many people who ask to be released. When I was in basic training, out of a course of 60 recruits, we only had two voluntary releases.
The way that our system works is that you can ask to be released at any time within your basic engagement (first three-year contract), and there is no penalty. They move you back to where you were recruited. After your BE, you can still cancel your contract, but you'll face cancelled contract penalties. You can move wherever you want, but you're responsible for the whole cost. The longer that you're in, the more it begins to cost you for cancelling your contract, because they've sunk more training into you, and they're not going to be able to get anything out of it. One of the men at the chapel was a Lieutenant-Colonel, commanding an infantry battalion, when he felt that God was leading him elsewhere. He was only seven years away from retirement, but he felt that the call was to sacrifice his career and pension to move into another line of work. I didn't ask him what they made him pay, but I don't think it was pocket change...
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makes sense.
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This thread is slowly getting off topic. Lets get it back on topic.
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Well, you guys have choice Peronally, in a year and abit (When I finish school), I'll HAVE to go to the military.
That's the way it's in Israel...
And they don't pay you that much either here.
During the regular service, which is three years long, they pay you just a little bit more than $20 a month, just for the sake of "paying"
Of course, after this, they'd like to make it worthy for you to continue with the Army, so they do quite nice salaries and offer lots of stuff just to get people sign contracts.
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Originally Posted by suntuoso This thread is slowly getting off topic. Lets get it back on topic.
I had a lot of fun during the field portion of my courses (which is partly why being in garrison gets to me so much - I like being out in the field), and I did quite well with them. I enjoy the military side of my job as much, if not more, than the technical side. What I wouldn't do to have a C7 in my hands again, to be doing some recce patrols again (because let's face it - section attacks get boring after a while - Assault Group 1 continue at a rapid rate of fire, Assault Group 2, prepare to move. Assault Group 2 move! Moving! Covering! Moving! Changing mags! Covering! Charlie Team, take the trench! [Slap in a fresh mag, toss in grenades, and once they pop, roll over and spray anything that moves on full auto] Trench clear, trench clear, trench clear! 2 Section, colsolidate 20 metres past the trench, consolidate, consolidate, consolidate! Alpha team, no casualties, four mags. Bravo team, one casualty, five mags. Charlie team, one casualty, six mags. Delta team, no casualties, four mags, etc...It's just a lot of reaction, and not much thinking) Recce though, that provides a decent challenge. Sneaking up to the enemy, watching them to figure out what they're up to, and sneaking out without being seen requires a bit of creativity and a level of observation that's beyond normal fighting patrols, especially since you're doing everything with hand signals. If I were to do any other job in the Army, it'd be in a Recce Platoon.
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