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I am a mormon dating a christian, and this debate has come up a lot of times. And my GF's parents even made us break up because of it. What a lot of people don't understand about my situation and i dunno why i am saying this on here but I haven't gone to a mormon church in i can't even remember when, but I am 18 now, and the only thing I believe to be true regarding religion is that Jesus is real, and only through him will i get to heaven. But i have learned nothing else. I have never been to church, until just recently ive been going to bible studies and stuff. I dunno, I see a lot of trash talk about mormons and what they believe in, and a lot of christians won't even really look at me now because of of the who /forum...ns/icon9.gifle
situation. We never really even held hands, we were just friends who loved to hang out so we considered eachother BF and GF. sigh, this sucks.
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I'm not going to spend any time on how mormons are different from christians; they are and it seems others have said such. If you really are not sure of all the theological fallicies and outright untruths Mormans base their belief on, you really should research it before you consider a relationship with someone who holds them close to their heart.
There was a thread in Dating & Relationships about dating non-christians, and I'll regurgitate what I said there because it's somewhat aplicable here.
In my opinion, one could date an un-believer, but it's asking for heartache. You will come to a point in the relationship where it can either progress no further without some spiritual commitment from the other, or you'll be going down a path that draws you away from God by your emotional complicity in the life of a person who knows nothing but the carnalities of this world. And, wonder or special as this person might be, they are lost and sinful without the salvation recieved from a personal relationship with God.
Although a mormon may not be spiritualy clueless, and may have the inklings of a Godly lifestyle, their doctrine and beliefs are fundamentaly skewed, so you would either be best off being this person's friend and eventualy trying to show them the truth instead of indulging in a relationship that will eventualy do both of you harm (unless one of you converts down the line)
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Originally Posted by Nathanael I'm not going to spend any time on how mormons are different from christians; they are and it seems others have said such. If you really are not sure of all the theological fallicies and outright untruths Mormans base their belief on, you really should research it before you consider a relationship with someone who holds them close to their heart. Theological issues are no yardstick of a person's salvation. In the same manner, I would like to remind everyone that no denomination is without it's theological problems. I would also like to state very clearly that, even if she is a Mormon, that does not in any way, shape or form inhibit the possibility that she is heav'n-bound.
It is extremely prejudiced to hop in and say that Mormons cannot be saved, just as it is to say such things about Catholics. Salvation is another issue from Christianity. Salvation is inviting Christ in. Christianity is following Christ. To think that we are in any way justified to say that someone is not Christian or even saved based on denominational doctrines is an anti-Christian act in and of itself, in that it steps out of the perspective of a seeker of Christ by being unduly and impossibly judgemental. Why say "This person is not saved" when you could say "I would like to walk with you for a while and learn about God with you"?
That said, an evaluation should be made of the girl on an individual level before you can yay or nay-say her. Does she truly hold the beliefs of the mormons close to her heart? Do you feel you can be a Christ-like witness to her?
There are two kinds of everything in this world. A thing by name, or a thing by nature. Which one is she?
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She is one by nature. The problem isn't that they don't think I want to be Christian, because that is definatly what I am working towards. Alot of people believe for some reason if I'm once a mormon, always a mormon. I mean, no one else can really decide my faith can they?
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No, only you and God know what goes on in your heart and it is between the two of you to determine what you believe.
This thread is three years old. 99919 18 AK, if you need advice on a certain aspect of your situation, we'd be more than happy to help. I'd even split the thread for you to start one automatically if there was an advice based question. It just makes it easier for us to help you personally if you have your own thread. As you're unregistered, I am going to leave this open so you have a proper place to respond (since you can't PM me).
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That would help a lot. My question is, What do you do when people around you think you will always be non-christian, even if you are trying and just getting into it. I myself have never really gone to church, just because I was raised that way. I desperately want to learn more about God, but the people in the church of my town see me as an "outisder" because I grew up in a mormon family. Anyways, thats my problem.
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doh, gotta read dates
Originally Posted by H.M. Murdock To think that we are in any way justified to say that someone is not Christian or even saved based on denominational doctrines is an anti-Christian act in and of itself, in that it steps out of the perspective of a seeker of Christ by being unduly and impossibly judgemental.
That's funny. That's exactly the additude I saw from the majority of users on CGR when the issue of my Oneness heresy came up.
Seriously, do you know what Mormonism is? I don't mean to sound rude here, but your thinking is pretty far off track as to comparing Mormons with the body of Christianity. A great many of their beliefs are completely unscriptural.
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Jason, Mormons are not Christians. Their beliefs are outside the pale of orthodoxy, and yes theological doctrinal positions determine whether someone can be saved. If someone takes the position of an Arian, one does not Believe Jesus is God.
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To the poster who grew up in a Mormon family...
Being a Mormon is specifically accepting the beliefs of the Church Of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. I am sorry people at local churches are rejecting you because of your past.
Grace is available to all, no matter what past affiliations we hold. My past makes people far more suspicious than being a mormon if they find out about it.
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Hey, not entirely sure if this will be useful at all, but this site REALLY helped me to understand Mormonism. http://www.carm.org/mormon.htm
By the way, if you don't believe Mormonistic beliefs, why say you are a Mormon? If it's not true, no reason to tell people about your past if you don't want to.
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Originally Posted by 99919 18 AK That would help a lot. My question is, What do you do when people around you think you will always be non-christian, even if you are trying and just getting into it. I myself have never really gone to church, just because I was raised that way. I desperately want to learn more about God, but the people in the church of my town see me as an "outisder" because I grew up in a mormon family. Anyways, thats my problem. First of all, I'd forget the notion of trying to convince others that you're trying, it's not their business, and some people just don't care.
If you believe Jesus is real and that He's the only way to heaven, then great! Keep reading God's Word (the Bible and only the Bible). Keep going to church, keep seeking God. As your faith grows, it will exibit itself.
As for dealing with what it feels like when people treat you like you're not a Christian once you've placed your faith in Christ alone for your salvation, then I'd recommend asking some of our Roman Catholic friends on this website, they probably get that alot.
*EDIT*
Just occured to me...if you want to pursue Christ, be a Christian, and have others believe you in your endeavors, I'd stop referring to yourself as a Mormon if you aren't really one.
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Originally Posted by H.M. Murdock Theological issues are no yardstick of a person's salvation. In the same manner, I would like to remind everyone that no denomination is without it's theological problems. I would also like to state very clearly that, even if she is a Mormon, that does not in any way, shape or form inhibit the possibility that she is heav'n-bound.
It is extremely prejudiced to hop in and say that Mormons cannot be saved, just as it is to say such things about Catholics. Salvation is another issue from Christianity. Salvation is inviting Christ in. Christianity is following Christ. To think that we are in any way justified to say that someone is not Christian or even saved based on denominational doctrines is an anti-Christian act in and of itself, in that it steps out of the perspective of a seeker of Christ by being unduly and impossibly judgemental. Why say "This person is not saved" when you could say "I would like to walk with you for a while and learn about God with you"?
That said, an evaluation should be made of the girl on an individual level before you can yay or nay-say her. Does she truly hold the beliefs of the mormons close to her heart? Do you feel you can be a Christ-like witness to her?
There are two kinds of everything in this world. A thing by name, or a thing by nature. Which one is she? Major theological issues are a yardstick for salvation.
It is the kind of weak, all accepting and tolerant Christianity that leads many people to believe they are saved when in actual fact they are not. We have to be clear on what salvation requires.
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in my life, personally, ive learned more quality things from people who i dont see eye to eye on than from people who should be teaching me good things. example ::
From my 9th grade science teacher who didnt want anything to do with christianity: how to accpect other's beliefs and respectfully disagree with them (good)
from my Mother: How to Hate (bad)