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Throughout the last 2 years, the girl i love more than anything else in the world(Nadine; and that is her real name, but the rest of the names will be changed) has been torn in half by her parents(We'll call dad Bob, and mom Sally)....they recently got a divorce, yet still run a business together....people quit because of how bad the fighting is....they can't even carry on a civil conversation..... everything her dad does he does with the intention of hurting her mom....yesterday i found out that Nadine's dad's girlfriend(we'll call her Jane) is charging "Sally" with assault.....i should mention that "Jane" used to work at the bakery run by "Bob" and Sally....Jane was fired after she became too pushy and acting like she had a say in how things were run(that would be because of her relations with Bob)....Sally is almost 60, and Jane can't be more than 45ish.....so i can't see assault happening, plus Sally is not that kind of person(at least i don't think so).....i think it's retaliation for being fired, and encouragement from Bob
now, my girl is hurt, and everything her dad seems to do hurts her more.....i can't stand seeing her hurt so bad....this is where it gets bad....she's been hurt so much by her dad, that i want to hurt him back....i can't understand why a "just" god, such as ours, would allow people to go through such hell....so now my hate of her father is turning into doubt/hate of God....
life is so screwed up right now...pray for both of us
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God puts Christians through trials and tribulation to test our faith I'm praying for everyoneand stay storng ~paige
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Originally Posted by Symbiotic Throughout the last 2 years, the girl i love more than anything else in the world(Nadine; and that is her real name, but the rest of the names will be changed) has been torn in half by her parents(We'll call dad Bob, and mom Sally)....they recently got a divorce, yet still run a business together....people quit because of how bad the fighting is....they can't even carry on a civil conversation..... everything her dad does he does with the intention of hurting her mom....yesterday i found out that Nadine's dad's girlfriend(we'll call her Jane) is charging "Sally" with assault.....i should mention that "Jane" used to work at the bakery run by "Bob" and Sally....Jane was fired after she became too pushy and acting like she had a say in how things were run(that would be because of her relations with Bob)....Sally is almost 60, and Jane can't be more than 45ish.....so i can't see assault happening, plus Sally is not that kind of person(at least i don't think so).....i think it's retaliation for being fired, and encouragement from Bob
now, my girl is hurt, and everything her dad seems to do hurts her more.....i can't stand seeing her hurt so bad....this is where it gets bad....she's been hurt so much by her dad, that i want to hurt him back....i can't understand why a "just" god, such as ours, would allow people to go through such hell....so now my hate of her father is turning into doubt/hate of God....
life is so screwed up right now...pray for both of us
Humans are screwed up, evil creatures, period. We corrupt the image of God continually. This does not translate to God being evil though, it goes back to man's sinful nature.
I am praying for you. I know how hard it is to trust God with a screwed up view of earthly fathers. I had a lot of trouble with this after my dad, (not father) pulled my little bro's arm out of socket in a fit of anger.
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wow! i will be praying for you and her gf and her family!
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I'm praying, remember that God's not a reflection of the evil things humans do, he still loves you and your girlfriend with all his heart, I can relate with having issues with my father, your in my prayers, stay strong.
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something i didn't know before....Bob re-hired Jane about a week after Sally fired her...so that isn't helping much.....Sally is charging Jane with harassment, and Jane's daughter of assault...
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Many things are best in the hands of God alone. Some things we can do, but all things can be done through Christ Jesus, who gives us strength [Phil 4:13].
Father God, Thank You for Your word and that we can turn to it today and know Your will for our lives on a daily basis. Move us by Your Spirit to have knowledge in these matters and to reach out to You for the peace on You can give. Thank You for giving this brother in Christ a heart for not only this precious girl, but her family. Your love causes us to love what You love God. I pray Jesus will give now His peace and wisdom to this family. I pray that He will guide them to reconcile no matter what the enemy has in mind for them. God I pray that You will bless Symbiotic and that His affection for this girl will bless and honor Your holy name. I ask this in the name of our Lord who willfully gave Himself once for all. Save this family, those that are lost and fill those who know You with Your Spirit. That they may bless Your holy name. In Jesus Christ I pray, Amen.
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Originally Posted by Symbiotic i can't understand why a "just" god, such as ours, would allow people to go through such hell....so now my hate of her father is turning into doubt/hate of God....
life is so screwed up right now...pray for both of us
I'm praying for you, Joel. Why would God allow people to go through this? Why would God allow nearly a million people to die in Rwanda in three months at the hands of a frenzied, racist mob? Why would God allow ten million people to die in the Congo at the hands of a greedy, arrogant, and self-serving man named King Leopold II chasing after wealth in the from of ivory and rubber? Where was God in all of that? Well, in Rwanda, He was in the voice of a man named LGen. Roméo Dallaire. In the Congo, He was in the voices of men like Sir Roger Casement and E.D. Morel. And in this situation, He is in you. I'm going to pray that you would have the strength to be the light of God's love in the midst of this situation, Joel. Like Bill said, humans are fallen, sinful creatures who make choices to hurt others on a daily basis. I've done it, you've done it, we've all done it. It's not God's fault that we decide to hurt people. What sets us as Christians apart form the rest of the world is that we have Christ to guide us, and the Holy Spirit within us to overcome the sinful nature of the flesh and demonstrate the love of God to a fallen world.
Why are they causing so much pain to Nadine? Well, she's caught in a crossfire between them. I remember seeing stock footage of US soldiers in Vietnam who would stay below the lip of their trenches, and just stick their rifles up over the edge, then empty out magazine after magazine on automatic. When you're in the middle of a firefight, you're not necessarily thinking about who's passing between you and the enemy. You just know that bullets are whizzing past your head, and you have to return fire or die. They're probably not even thinking about the hurt that they're causing her, because they're completely wrapped up in their fight with eachother. They're so consumed with their fight, and what the other person did, that they don't see anything else.
But you have to avoid taking that same route, Joel, because it's self-destructive, and it's detremental to your relationships with people around you. Eventually, you're the one shooting your rifle off on full-auto over your head and hurting the ones you love. If you follow that path through to its bitter end, you end up miserable, blinded by hatred, morose and bitter towards God and the rest of the world. It's a cancerous disease that will eat your soul from the inside out. And you won't be any closer to understanding, much less feeling any better about the situation. In fact, you'll be further away.
A friend of mine was born-again, came out of the street gang scene in Toronto, filled with the Holy Spirit, went on a missions trip to Asia, preached, played music for God - a young man who was sold out for Christ. I worked with him at a construction company before I joined the Army, but I'd watched him go from a raw, unbeliever, to a baby Christian, to a storong man of God. I met him in 1999, and between then and 2003 when I left for recruit school, we'd become good friends. He was a young man who had a passion for the things of God burning in his heart. But in the fall of 2003, he took offense to something that someone did. He stopped going to church, then went into a completely un-Godly lifestyle. But you know, God never gives up on us. My old pastor's son and this guy used to be best friends, and now that he's living for Christ again, he's constantly in touch with our mutual buddy to reach out to him and show him the God still cares.
There's a song that I want you to listen to, Joel (and I don't normally use the imperitive when I talk to people, but this time, I think it's necessary). It's by the late, great Rich Mullins, and it's called 'Hard to Get.' As I was thinking about what you'd written, the song came to me (doing my laundry, of all things ), and I believe that you would get something from it. Peace, Joel, and I'm praying for you.
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Originally Posted by Grasshopper359 But you have to avoid taking that same route, Joel, because it's self-destructive, and it's detremental to your relationships with people around you. Eventually, you're the one shooting your rifle off on full-auto over your head and hurting the ones you love. If you follow that path through to its bitter end, you end up miserable, blinded by hatred, morose and bitter towards God and the rest of the world. It's a cancerous disease that will eat your soul from the inside out. And you won't be any closer to understanding, much less feeling any better about the situation. In fact, you'll be further away.
I am blessed enough to have grown up with parents that love each other very much....i have never seen them fight(although sometimes you know when they are "annoyed" or unhappy with eath other...that's normal)....i have promised to myself to be like them....nadine was not so fortunate....but she has promised NOT to be like here parents....i think that's what will make the biggest difference when we get married
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a new development: The other day while working(I assume) "Bob" grabbed "Sally" by the shoulders and threw her...now that is assault..."Jane" is still chrging Sally with assualt(which is unlikely to have happened), but Sally won't charge Bob with assualt for throwing her....what doesn't help is that Sally fell down some stairs during the summer and broke her wrist...her wrist has yet to heal because of how often it must be used to work....as you well know, anyone who is pushed or thrown tries to catch themselves with their hands, so that woulda hurt a lot.....Nadine now wants to not see her dad anymore....ever(and i don't blame her)....I was going to talk to him about my plans to propose to Nadine at christmas.....that ain't gonna happen now....i'm going to talk to her mom, because i see no fault of hers at all....but her dad, in my eyes, doesn't deserve the right to have any input at all if he is a woman beater....i don't care anymore if he wouldn't like the idea....all he deserves is a swastika painted on his house