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Here's the story.

There's a lot going on. My best friend (I'll call him Kirk) fell in love with a girl I brought to church (let's called her Rebecca), and they started dating jsut three weeks later, and very very very very very very very very very shortly after, decided they wanted to get married. Oh, and they were both only 16 at the time. Part of the reason is that Kirk is not very spiritual at all, he's into a lot of bad stuff, and they're headed in two different directions spiritually. Kirk is getting more gothic, Rebecca's getting more spiritual. She's given up a lot of secular music for sure (she took the Green Day sticker off her bass guitar), but Kirk keeps getting into more bad music and stuff (in case any of you don't believe me about music being bad sometimes, then at least understand that it's very bad for him). He's completely made a god out of what he likes best; guitar, glory and girls. Kirk is in very bad shape, but Rebecca is acting stupid by staying iwth him. He told her at the beginning of the relationship "I have a temper problem; take it or leave it." She took it. It's not fair to her. She shouldn't ahve to live with that. Kirk shoudl get over it because he's supposed to anyways, but he just won't give it to God! He doesn't treat her well either. I've overheard him yell at her on the phone because he hadn't seen her in a month cuz she was hanging out with her best friend lately whom she had been good friends with for the last 6 years or so. He also calls her woman a lot (which is just disrespectful). Rebecca is basically his girl. Kirk only wants to please himself by having her as a girlfriend.

Anyways, yes. Pray that they breakup. That sounds weird, but pray that it happens. It needs to happen. At least for Rebecca's sake. Kirk is a slow learner. I kinda wonder if Kirk is just going to be one of those guys that God is going to let slip. Rebecca deserves better than this. She called me today (she hardly ever calls me), and she wanted to talk, but she also needed a ride to Kirk's 18th party today. She told me that wehn school starts, she's not going to stay in one place at lunch; she's going to be going to different tables and witnessing. There's a great number of things about her, and I'd hate to see her life ruined by this relationship. Kirk wants to get married THIS YEAR!!! I feel like the clock is ticking now.

So yes, please be praying. The idea came to fast over it a while ago, but now that I look back, I should have done it. It was probably God giving me that. I didn't want to though, cuz I had jsut gotten done fasting over Kirk, that he would get off his bad music (he didn't change; he went and bought a Metallica CD yesterday or just recently). If I do, it's gonna probably be 40 days again. I don't know, whatever God calls me to do.

Yeah, please pray that they break up. It has to happen.

God bless.
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Why do you feel the need to fast in order for "Kirk" to give up Metallica Cd's?
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Originally Posted by Kiss the Son Why do you feel the need to fast in order for "Kirk" to give up Metallica Cd's?
I meant that just to show what kind of stuff he's into. I don't wanna debate it; jsut trust me it's done some bad having this in his life.
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Hey, I'm praying.
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wow im praying!
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Thank you.

Oh, just a side note. I didn't fast for Kirk to give up Metallica. Them and including the rest of the bad musical influences in his life. Actually, more just entertainment stuff in general. His standards are pretty low.

I'll push my prayer request a bit further. I really want to be someone that Rebecca can talk to. I want to stick by her and encourage her and such. Pray that God will give me wisdom when talking to her. Pray that I'll have her full trust. Pray that she won't be led by her emotions for Kirk. Pray that God will help her see through all this. She comes from a home with a mother who's been through so many guys who have just randomly dumped, and I don't think she really understands what an authentic guy is like. She's never seen one relationship-wise. Well, I've never known her old boyfriends, so I can't say that for sure, but it doesn't seem like she does.
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hey its in my prayers
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Thank you all for your support

I'm going to push this a bit further. Pray that Rebecca will see her identity in Christ, not in Kirk. I don't know if I made this real clear, though I did mention her mom having been with several guys, but I think she's used to being talked down to or seeing her mom talked down at. A lot of her mom's boyfriends have just called her woman, which is pretty disrespectful. Pray that Rebecca will see through it. I know that Kirk calls her woman a lot, like he owns her. Yeah, pray that she'll see through that. Pray that she'll stand up for herself. Pray that she won't look for an identity in Kirk.

Once again, thank you for your support. I'll keep this regularly updated.

God bless.
Jake
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please do.
still praying
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I'm wondering why you are not praying for Kirk's salvation?
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Originally Posted by nix I'm wondering why you are not praying for Kirk's salvation?
He's saved, and I pray for him every day.

Maybe I was wrong to forget about him, but I only talked about Rebecca cuz that's just where my mind was after the party.

I'll give you some things to pray over Kirk. I'm not going to go into a lot of detail, cuz I just feel like when I do, I'm just venting. I'm just really confused about what to say and what not to say right now. I don't know, but here's a summary.

He's really rebellious, and tries to get away with whatever he can, even if it means making other people look bad. His primary reason for having a girlfriend is just so he can have someone to "call his woman." H explained to me one time tht he feels empty because his biological mother is dead, and when I asked him why he wouldn't let God fill tht hole, he said, "I tried. It didn't work." He's not willing at all to change, and every time he gives up a lot of his bad music, he goes right back. He's just also got a real bad attitude.

So yes, pray for that too, and pray that I have the patience to deal with it. I don't know what else to say right now, I just now feel kinda bad that I didn't bring him up more towards the beginning of the thread. Sorry.

--Jake
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i'm praying
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I'm praying for Kirk- for what you have mentioned.

I'm praying for Rebbeca, to help maintain/strengthen her relatonship with God.

I'm praying for the relationship, to where God can allow it to go in the direction of where it needs to go. Whether it be people breaking up, or even people changing.
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Muchas gracias.
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Hey!
Well, first off, I will say a prayer for the both of them, and you. I know what its like to be one of thoes people who hates God and just uses other people. Even though there was never a girl in my life before I came to God, I was still a horrible person, and no one could have ever guessed that I would someday turn out the way I did. I did awful things, but God put me in some insane circumstances, and when I came out the other side, man, were people ever shocked. God can do powerfull things. Sure, I think its crazy they rushed the relationship and are talking about marrige, but, you know, well, I really have no idea why teenagers do the things they do. I am one, and I have no idea why my peers do things like that. I look at things like that and go "do'h". Just keep praying for them, cause it is the best thing you can do. Hope it turns out well.