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In my opinion, everyone is too stuck on standards that they have lost the love that they are suppost to have, I too am guilty of this. People are too busy worrying about standards that they have lost the God-Given love that we all had when we first entered the truith. Standards don't get you to heaven, it is what is in your hearts. Yes, you Have to go by Acts 2:38, but what I am saying is that living the standards alone will not get you into heaven, but it's what is in your hearts. Maybe that is what God has been trying to tell me... who knows, but I just thought I would share this.
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Originally Posted by DuhDuck In my opinion, everyone is too stuck on standards that they have lost the love that they are suppost to have, I too am guilty of this. People are too busy worrying about standards that they have lost the God-Given love that we all had when we first entered the truith. Standards don't get you to heaven, it is what is in your hearts. Yes, you Have to go by Acts 2:38, but what I am saying is that living the standards alone will not get you into heaven, but it's what is in your hearts. Maybe that is what God has been trying to tell me... who knows, but I just thought I would share this. Ah, I know the perfect forum for this
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Yes, you Have to go by Acts 2:38, but what I am saying is that living the standards alone will not get you into heaven, but it's what is in your hearts. Maybe that is what God has been trying to tell me... who knows, but I just thought I would share this.[/quote]
i agree, but if "it's what is in your hearts" as u said that will get u into heaven, then your interpretation of acts 2:38 can't be right. u would have to say "it's what is in your hearts" PLUS "you have to go get water babtized". right?
god bless
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Originally Posted by bulldoghair Yes, you Have to go by Acts 2:38, but what I am saying is that living the standards alone will not get you into heaven, but it's what is in your hearts. Maybe that is what God has been trying to tell me... who knows, but I just thought I would share this.
i agree, but if "it's what is in your hearts" as u said that will get u into heaven, then your interpretation of acts 2:38 can't be right. u would have to say "it's what is in your hearts" PLUS "you have to go get water babtized". right?
god bless[/quote]
No, I believe Acts 2:38, I am saved by that. Yes you have to Repent, and be Baptised in JESUS NAME, and recieve the Holy Ghost to enter into heaven. But What I am saying is that if the love of God is not in your heart than there is no way you are getting into heaven. Just a fact. People are arguing too much about standards and are losing out on what God wants for thier lives. Just saying.
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Having the love of God in your heart is a standard of Christianity.
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Originally Posted by DuhDuck [/color]
i agree, but if "it's what is in your hearts" as u said that will get u into heaven, then your interpretation of acts 2:38 can't be right. u would have to say "it's what is in your hearts" PLUS "you have to go get water babtized". right?
god bless
No, I believe Acts 2:38, I am saved by that. Yes you have to Repent, and be Baptised in JESUS NAME, and recieve the Holy Ghost to enter into heaven. But What I am saying is that if the love of God is not in your heart than there is no way you are getting into heaven. Just a fact. People are arguing too much about standards and are losing out on what God wants for thier lives. Just saying. [/quote]
so, if men and women have the love of God in their hearts (which is a standard of christianity), but they don't follow your interpretaion of "standards", do u believe that they are going to heaven?
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Please leave this in the ones already started.
We don't need all of the posts you add coming to the same place.
I agree with Duh Duck
And no i believe that if people have sertain convictions in their hearts( if they live by the Bible) they will change to the right way
and leave the dark side.
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Careful, bulldoghair and DuhDuck. This is getting theological, in which case it would belong in the Theology forum, which has been closed until December 15th. If it goes too far I'll be forced to close the thread.
The purpose of the testimonies/sharing forum is mainly to share things which are on our hearts and minds, and things we have experienced, things which glorify God. DuhDuck has done so in her posting of what is on her mind. I appreciate that you guys want to discuss this, but don't let it to go too far into a theological debate.
For the record, here's the text of Acts 2:38 (NIV).
Peter replied, "Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
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Originally Posted by bulldoghair
No, I believe Acts 2:38, I am saved by that. Yes you have to Repent, and be Baptised in JESUS NAME, and recieve the Holy Ghost to enter into heaven. But What I am saying is that if the love of God is not in your heart than there is no way you are getting into heaven. Just a fact. People are arguing too much about standards and are losing out on what God wants for thier lives. Just saying.
so, if men and women have the love of God in their hearts (which is a standard of christianity), but they don't follow your interpretaion of "standards", do u believe that they are going to heaven?[/quote]
Ok, I want to be careful on this so the thread doesn't close, but I believe that if people focus too much on standards, they will lose the love of God in thier hearts. When I say standards, I mean, Dress, actions, all that stuff. The fruits of the spirit are important, and Love is part of that. You need to go by Acts 2:38 to be saved. But even if you go by that, and don't have love, you can't get to heaven
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Originally Posted by DuhDuck But even if you go by that, and don't have love, you can't get to heaven Ephesians 2:8-9
For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast.
Salvation is by faith ALONE through grace ALONE.
Romans 4:1-5
What then shall we say that Abraham our father has found according to the flesh? For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God. For what does the Scripture say? "Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness." Now to him who works, the wages are not counted as grace but as debt. But to him who does not work but believes on Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is accounted for righteousness
Again, salvation is by faith ALONE through grace ALONE.
Colossians 2:13-14
And you, being dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He has made alive together with Him, having forgiven you all trespasses, having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.
God has wiped away the handwriting of requirements against us. Works are now simply the outpouring of our faith, they do not save us.
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Originally Posted by DuhDuck Ok, I want to be careful on this so the thread doesn't close, but I believe that if people focus too much on standards, they will lose the love of God in thier hearts. When I say standards, I mean, Dress, actions, all that stuff. The fruits of the spirit are important, and Love is part of that. You need to go by Acts 2:38 to be saved. But even if you go by that, and don't have love, you can't get to heaven
You do realize that you just made up some standards by which we are saved, right?
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Originally Posted by exo You do realize that you just made up some standards by which we are saved, right?
No, I don't think I made up some standard. Look it up under the fruits of the spirits... you'll see for yourself
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Originally Posted by DuhDuck No, I don't think I made up some standard. Look it up under the fruits of the spirits... you'll see for yourself
Nope, those verses say that we must repent and be baptized, and that is what you are implying. Therefore the standard by which we are measured in terms of our salvation is:
1) Repent
2) Be Baptized
If we have not done both of those, then we fall short of the standard of salvation that you have set up.
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Originally Posted by logitech Please leave this in the ones already started.
We don't need all of the posts you add coming to the same place.
I agree with Duh Duck
And no i believe that if people have sertain convictions in their hearts( if they live by the Bible) they will change to the right way
and leave the dark side.
lol,the dark side? ok, don't get mad the next time someone else on here describes your denomination's beliefs as nothing but a big ol' heresy.
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Originally Posted by hapa_angel Careful, bulldoghair and DuhDuck. This is getting theological, in which case it would belong in the Theology forum, which has been closed until December 15th. If it goes too far I'll be forced to close the thread.
The purpose of the testimonies/sharing forum is mainly to share things which are on our hearts and minds, and things we have experienced, things which glorify God. DuhDuck has done so in her posting of what is on her mind. I appreciate that you guys want to discuss this, but don't let it to go too far into a theological debate.
For the record, here's the text of Acts 2:38 (NIV).
Peter replied, "Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
by all means, send it. it wouldn't bother me